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Replacing control arm bushings?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 5:27 pm
by DanteGTZ
I tried searching but didn't come up with what I needed. I bought some ES poly control arm bushings for the 93 GTZ - Can someone explain the process of replacing them? I realize the bolts will need to come out, but wasn't sure if there was a specific procedure...?

Re: Replacing control arm bushings?

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:40 pm
by bonecrrusher
Use a drill press and drill through the rubber - around the metal tube in the bushing - thats how I got them out.

And or - set them on fire and burn them out.

Also stitch weld the seems on the control arms to make them stronger.

Re: Replacing control arm bushings?

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:15 am
by 3X00-Modified
bonecrrusher wrote:Also stitch weld the seems on the control arms to make them stronger.
Has anyone proven that theory? I know it's pretty straight forward in thinking it will help but I've heard some say it's not worth it.

Re: Replacing control arm bushings?

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 9:55 am
by bonecrrusher
Besides control arms rusting apart - I've never seen a set bust/flex apart from daily driving.

You would think a physical bond - melting the 2 arms together would be stronger then the mechanical bond of them being press fit together.

If you've got them out of the car, have access to a welder, and going to be working on them - probably the best time to 'upgrade' them....

But what do I know.... :)

Re: Replacing control arm bushings?

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 10:34 am
by 3X00-Modified
They are spot welded together... not pressed...

Re: Replacing control arm bushings?

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:16 pm
by Slinky
3X00-Modified wrote:
bonecrrusher wrote:Also stitch weld the seems on the control arms to make them stronger.
Has anyone proven that theory? I know it's pretty straight forward in thinking it will help but I've heard some say it's not worth it.
I did mine while they were out, idk if it helps but it could not hurt, i saw it in that magazine article from the 90's

Re: Replacing control arm bushings?

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 12:29 pm
by bonecrrusher
3X00-Modified wrote:They are spot welded together... not pressed...
Touché

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Its been a long time since I looked at a set of those.

The set that I had welded up ended up under Kevin's car - and well that got smashed years ago.

Re: Replacing control arm bushings?

Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:57 pm
by woody90gtz
Fully welded is better than spot welded. Just ask the rear axle in my Camaro. haha

The ES ones are a piece of cake, but the stockers are a pain to remove.

Re: Replacing control arm bushings?

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:17 pm
by DanteGTZ
Getting ready to FINALLY get around to doing this project before BerettaFest. As far as getting the control arms out - just unbolt them and remove th ball joints?

Re: Replacing control arm bushings?

Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2016 11:31 pm
by bonecrrusher
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Two bolts for the control arm bushings - and the ball joint itself.

Either have to cut the rivets off - and or unbolt them and knock them out with a hammer if they haven't already been replaced.

Re: Replacing control arm bushings?

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2016 2:39 pm
by DanteGTZ
bonecrrusher wrote:Image

Two bolts for the control arm bushings - and the ball joint itself.

Either have to cut the rivets off - and or unbolt them and knock them out with a hammer if they haven't already been replaced.
I was serious..... until I got under the car and looked... for some reason I thought it was more complicated than that... lol

Re: Replacing control arm bushings?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 7:11 pm
by Money pit Beretta
Not a bad idea to get new control arm bolts. They do tend to rust out.

Re: Replacing control arm bushings?

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:38 pm
by DanteGTZ
Money pit Beretta wrote:Not a bad idea to get new control arm bolts. They do tend to rust out.
The hardware actually seemed to be in pretty good shape. I wound up using the drill/press out method and that worked OK.

The new ones were cake -- I almost bought new replacement control arms but after getting the ES ones in (and knowing how easy they'll be to replace in the future) and installing new ball joints (MF'ing rivets!) I think I'm in pretty good shape if anything needs attention in the future.

Re: Replacing control arm bushings?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:32 pm
by Money pit Beretta
Man your lucky, one of my 95's had all the threads rusted off.