Suspension Beef!

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Re: Suspension Beef!

Postby Money pit Beretta » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:54 pm

Around here it's 20USD for a stock Cavy STB.
Boy I was way off on the MRZ front bar.
http://mrzperformance.vstore.ca/product ... ucts_id/36


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Re: Suspension Beef!

Postby Koots » Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:43 pm

Those prices aren't cheap, but once the car is inspected and safe for the road, the front and rear bars are going in.

How are the Moog replacement springs I see for sale?



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Re: Suspension Beef!

Postby Money pit Beretta » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:14 pm

Get the Cavy front bar, they are just as good if not better. Moog's? Had them on my 90GT and they were stiff. I hated them.


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Re: Suspension Beef!

Postby Koots » Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:17 pm

Thanks, I'm just gonna have a hard time tracking one down in Labrador.

I will stay away from the Moog's then. Thanks for the advice!



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Re: Suspension Beef!

Postby Money pit Beretta » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:23 pm

If you can't find a Cavy bar I have a few. I can tell you that you can find stock springs, but they cost alot more than Moog's.


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Re: Suspension Beef!

Postby Koots » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:24 am

I ended up finding a company that ships to Canada, but Thanks for the offer!

What does everyone recommend for struts?

I was thinking of just going with KYB GR-2's as they performed admirably for an OEM shock on the Civic I had a few years back. Even with the car lowered 2.25" all the way around.



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Re: Suspension Beef!

Postby 3X00-Modified » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:38 am

I run the KYB's on my car with Eibach springs, I can't complain for an affordable option. However if I do change them I'm going with Koni J-body inserts up front and Koni rear Saab socks.



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Re: Suspension Beef!

Postby Koots » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:05 am

I ran GR-2's and Koni Yellows on my Civic, I was pleased with both but the Koni's were definitely more performance oriented and setup for my lowered suspension.

What are the Saab shocks for? better travel?



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Re: Suspension Beef!

Postby 3X00-Modified » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:08 am

The Saab shocks are the only ones that fit our cars made by Koni... thats the reason for them. Hence the reason for the J-body front inserts too and not L-body.

Nobody makes a performance shock specific for our car, the KYB is as stiff as you can get unless you start custom fitting.



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Re: Suspension Beef!

Postby Koots » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:14 am

Good to know :)

My plan is to keep this car stock, but i'm sure i'll make a subtle change to every single part of it before i'm "done" LOL

It's just that my old DD went from an economical (24MPG) but slow diesel GMC Jimmy and turned into a lifted, turbo diesel, mad-max survival rig and it's not gonna turn out to be the best DD (still gets 16MPG though).



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Re: Suspension Beef!

Postby DTMAce » Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:19 pm

Money pit Beretta wrote:Around here it's 20USD for a stock Cavy STB.
Boy I was way off on the MRZ front bar.
http://mrzperformance.vstore.ca/product ... ucts_id/36



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Re: Suspension Beef!

Postby Koots » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:04 pm

That bar is expensive, but for a brace as nice as that you can expect to pay $125-$200 for other models.

I had cheap, adjustable Ebay strut bars on my Civic first and they made a subtle difference. Then I bought a front strut bar that was custom made and fully welded that made the front end of my car feel like a completely different animal.

I don't know what the Z24 braces are like, personally, but I'm planning on ordering an upper and lower brace soon. Then a rear brace, rear sway bar, etc.etc.



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Re: Suspension Beef!

Postby Money pit Beretta » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:18 pm

The Z24 bar is steel, no flex what so ever. You could fight a bear with it.


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Re: Suspension Beef!

Postby heavywoody » Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:33 pm

I actually have video showing the difference in the flex of the Cavalier bar vs. the MRZ bar.

When the car is parked, and moving the wheels to full lock, the MRZ bar flexes up about 1/16-1/8" of an inch.

The Cavalier bar does not flex at all.

If you want the stiffest possible bar, that doesn't allow the strut towers to flex, I think the option is clear.

While the MRZ bar is a very sexy piece, I'll stick to my color matched GM bar.


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Re: Suspension Beef!

Postby Koots » Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:57 pm

heavywoody wrote:I actually have video showing the difference in the flex of the Cavalier bar vs. the MRZ bar.

When the car is parked, and moving the wheels to full lock, the MRZ bar flexes up about 1/16-1/8" of an inch.

The Cavalier bar does not flex at all.

If you want the stiffest possible bar, that doesn't allow the strut towers to flex, I think the option is clear.

While the MRZ bar is a very sexy piece, I'll stick to my color matched GM bar.


So that's 2 people now, telling me to go with the stock one. So I know which decision to make :D




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