gtz vs. z26?

[blackedz26]

Stock for stock. Who wins? Speed. Acceleration. Upkeep cost. Either motor prone to anything? Part availability for upkeep? And most important mags? Do the older gtzs have a governor? Ik my 96z did and it passed me off it quit at 4k. Ik the zs are rated 150-160 hp and the q4: 170-190. But about torque? I live in an urban/country area with moderate hills and i like to go when in there's no cops. Also, which motor can take more punishment?? Thanks

[DTMAce]

Not sure about the GTZs, but the Z26 were limited to a top speed of 110 to 115. It wasn't due to RPM, so your 4k statement isn't correct. I could run it in 3rd, be turning a higher RPM and still hit the same speed and it would shut down. Now sitting in park or neutral and revving it, yeah it stops at 4k. But I think the computer will allow the engine to run up to 5500 or so, maybe it was 6 before shutting it down while under load of acceleration.

3.1 vs 3100(3.1) there is a bit more power in the 3100 design, so side by side it had a bit more get up and go. GTZs had a manual or auto option, Z26 only had auto, but it was a 4 speed vs the 3 speed auto in the GTZ.

Now the GTZ also came with the quad 4 cylinder high performance engine coupled to a manual transmission, and only the 1994 year of Z26 had the same package. Also the 1994 version of the 3100 made about 5 more horsepower than the 95 and 96 years. Mostly due as I recall to a different airbox setup I think.

For the V6, it would have to be either the GTZ with the manual transmission or the Z26 with the electronic 4 speed auto, couple with a better breathing and SFI fuel injection. (sequential port vs multiport - Keep in mind this only helped when driving conservatively)

For a bit more of a sprinty ride, the quad GTZ or Z26 is the way to go. Engines however are fickle and can be a pain to properly maintain.

3100's worst issues are the lower intake gaskets and/or head gaskets failing. The older 3.1s had less of an issue with those. But they also were easy to upgrade, you can pretty much just drop in a 3400 engine if you want to add a few horses to the car.

Other biggest issues is rust.

Overall, if you want a car that can take some hard driving, a Z26/3100 combination would be the way to go. Less to worry about, and its fun to drive.

And finally I think the GTZs had limiters on the speed as well, but not sure what they were set at. I know I have hit 115 on the dash before mine shuts down, but I bet if I GPSed it, it would be closer to 110. Last time I had it that fast though was awhile ago. No reason to go that fast anymore. I have more fun sprinting in it from 0 - 75. LOL

[blackedz26]

I was leaning z. But also would love at q4. I loved my z.. my favorite car i ever owned. But it got totaled last week. When the insurance comes thru my gt is going bye bye.it was a cheap replacement for time being. But is a far cry from my z. also i ment to say mpgs. Hate autocorrect. There's a black z in my area with a perfect dash and i do mean perfect dash with a sunroof. When the check comes in gpingnto offer her 2k for it. Just over 100k miles. And everything works. Some body flaws but nothing mine didn't have. Irony is our cars where identical minus sunroof and condition. She also said the governor has been removed.
And i didn't mean the car stops at 4k rpms i ment that's what the motor was running at in od when it shuts off. Under wot I've hit 5700. Anyways enough rambling for now.

God i miss that car..

[scd88ga]

For the V6, it would have to be either the GTZ with the manual transmission or the Z26 with the electronic 4 speed auto, couple with a better breathing and SFI fuel injection. (sequential port vs multiport - Keep in mind this only helped when driving conservatively)

The 3.1 V6 GTZ's (91-93) ONLY came with automatic transmissions...

[DTMAce]

My mistake, its the GTs I was thinking of then.

[Gtzman]

GTZ Q4! FTW! Run mine at full RPM (7400 i think) all the time and have no problems.

[speedy]

stop asking this question, just do a dam search, its been beat to death again and again and again and again, its all a matter of opinion and different people have different opinions, then you have the guys who never owned a quad saying quads are all garbage blah blah blah and it will just become one big arguement, i owned several beretta's, i owned a 92 v6 auto gtz, a 95 v6 auto z26, a 94 quad 4 z26, a 91 quad 4 gtz, a 91 v6 gtz and drove several others.... and worked on many others... of them all, the 94quad was by far my favorite and the fastest, and in 10k of 7k shifts, i never had any issues with it besides breaking the motor mounts... the 95 v6 z was my least favorite, bought it with 82k on it, and had put another 2k into engine repairs in less then 10,000 miles before it was totaled... like i said though, its just a matter of opinion...

[blackedz26]

I did do a search fyi. I didn't get anything. Thanks guys for the real answers.

[DTMAce]

Who in this thread said anything about quads being garbage?

I said they were sprinty, and in some cases can be faster than a V6... But I also said they can be fickle and will require a more active maintenance lifestyle than what you will get away with on a V6.

Read before you jump on people.

[BerettaGTchick]

Speedy, as much as I love my quad, you got to admit that it is funny how all your quads went out of service due to you blowing them up and your V6 berettas when out of service due to idiots hitting them and totaling them. I will pick my quad GTZ over my 3.1L GT anyday, but the GT does work its ass off for me and doesn't ask for much while I spoil my quad to keep her happy

[Berettas#1]

V6-stick cant beat it, if your lucky enough to find one. Good luck with whatever you chose though. As long as it is a beretta its ok with me.

[blackedz26]

I have the gt with 3.1 v6 5speed. Not quite satisfied with it. Don't get me wrong i love i have the only ft around my area. But its not as quick as my z was. Nor does it get the same mpg. My z could get 25 easy running hardish. My gt gets 20 is being nice. Granted its not running 100% but i dont think its much off.

[BerettaGTchick]

To me it sounds like you would enjoy a Quad more or do a 3400/5spd swap on a Beretta...I hear those are fun cars

[blackedz26]

Ultimately a 3400 would be beast. Lol. I think im goin with the z for the less money in upkeep. Engines are easily found since tm put them in a bajillion cars lol

[88_GTU]

Stock speed, handling, and braking it's a 92 Quad GTZ. Best year for the Quad Beretta plus the bigger brakes.

That's stock for stock. A GTZ can be a great car as long as you know how to properly maintain it. Be religious with oil changes and regular maintenance and it will reward you.

J