Well I FINALLY broke it!

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Re: Well I FINALLY broke it!

Postby beretta bitch » Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:52 pm

3400beretta wrote:I didn't even think to tape it.. pisses me off. I'll post some time slips on the weekend when I'm back home though..



That's what you get when you guys go racing without me...NO VIDEO...lol.

Congrats Rodney...sorry I missed it.



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Re: Well I FINALLY broke it!

Postby woody90gtz » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:14 pm

Congrats! Took you long enough to break it! haha

I'm sure it will end up being better than it was anyway. Going to go with some Driveshaft Shop axles?


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Re: Well I FINALLY broke it!

Postby Asylum » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:31 pm

Nope!

It was the situation that broke it, not the parts.

I am of the opinion it would have broken damn near any axle with what happened.

Basically it free-wheeled to the shift light, I let off to zero, it grabbed, and SNAP!

Axles shouldn't break on these cars if everything is aligned correctly, but I suppose you can only expect so much.

This was not as much a part failure as a failure of a part that had no chance given what happened.

But it'll be fixed in a couple of days.

HELL Rodney just ran mid 12's at 118 on stock axles with a 5-speed. I certainly don't need $700+ worth of axles!!

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Re: Well I FINALLY broke it!

Postby IsaacHayes » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:24 pm

Stock axles are stronger than aftermarket, just keep that in mind.

Rodney, we want video because we want to be entertained!!! I heard something about your 3500 breaking, was that not true?


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Re: Well I FINALLY broke it!

Postby 3400beretta » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:34 pm

Yes its true.. new engine is in already. The old engine was hurt, it overheated a couple times, and had low (125psi) compression in 1 cylinder. Plus I had an ignition related issue, it would sputter and backfire under load - at first just WOT, but then it got worse. It took me awhile to figure out what the problem was, it turned out to be a bad ignition module. I suspected the ignition module right off the bat, and swapped it with my spare, but the car did the exact same thing. So I figured it was something else - it wasn't till I tried the one from my grand am, that the problem went away, so I guess I had 2 bad ignition modules, which I find very strange.

Anyways, that sputtering/backfiring is what did the engine in, I was at the track, and I didn't let off the gas when it started doing it, mostly because I was frustrated, and I knew the engine was junk/coming out anyways. So lesson learned - fucked up ignition timing + 14 PSI = multiple connecting rod failures!



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Re: Well I FINALLY broke it!

Postby IsaacHayes » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:31 pm

Broke or bent rods? That's at least different from the usual melted/shattered pistons!


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Re: Well I FINALLY broke it!

Postby Barry » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:33 pm

You can take out 2 pistons and a rod and a block with 1 single hose clamp screw. Why play with turbos?

Good thing is that flying crap from inside the motor didnt take out the turbo... that woulda sucked!



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Re: Well I FINALLY broke it!

Postby 3400beretta » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:14 am

No, they were MIA. I should have taken pics I guess.. A few (very) small pieces of one connecting rod were in the oil pan, and the big end of one connecting rod was attached to the crank still. Both pistons (5 & 6) were just up in the cylinders with NOTHING attached to them. Some how the other connecting rod removed itself from the crank journal, and also removed a counterweight from this FORGED crank. I had 3 holes in the oil pan, 2 bigger than my fist, the 3rd was right behind my starter, which a piece of connecting rod so kindly cracked my mini starter. The block was cracked on both sides, near cylinders 5 & 6. However, the tops of all the pistons were perfect still, no nicks, hot spots or otherwise evidence of detonation.



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Re: Well I FINALLY broke it!

Postby 3X00-Modified » Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:55 am

3400beretta wrote:No, they were MIA. I should have taken pics I guess.. A few (very) small pieces of one connecting rod were in the oil pan, and the big end of one connecting rod was attached to the crank still. Both pistons (5 & 6) were just up in the cylinders with NOTHING attached to them. Some how the other connecting rod removed itself from the crank journal, and also removed a counterweight from this FORGED crank. I had 3 holes in the oil pan, 2 bigger than my fist, the 3rd was right behind my starter, which a piece of connecting rod so kindly cracked my mini starter. The block was cracked on both sides, near cylinders 5 & 6. However, the tops of all the pistons were perfect still, no nicks, hot spots or otherwise evidence of detonation.


Nice carnage...

I have a piston on my PC from one of our last rules motors that we ran at Thompson Speedway... The wrist pin pulled right out the bottom of the piston and the rod made its way around the block destroying everything in in its path, yet the piston was just sitting there at the top of the bore. I removed the piston from the hole in the side of the block, that's how bad it was... LOL



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Re: Well I FINALLY broke it!

Postby 3400beretta » Sun Nov 08, 2009 3:48 pm

Here ya go.. on the left (9037)

On the 12.52 slip, the guy in the right lane was a magnum with quite a bit of work done to his car.. needless to say, he was pretty pissed off.. haha.
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Re: Well I FINALLY broke it!

Postby Money pit Beretta » Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:17 pm

Man is that fast! Yeah I bet he about craped him self in anger. :good:


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Re: Well I FINALLY broke it!

Postby Asylum » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:06 pm

I was there, and the guy in the Magnun (nice car with a few mods!) is STILL trying to figure out what the hell that was all about. LOL!! :shock:

Rodney's car is scary!


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