The Old Man is going Turbo! NOT!!

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Re: The Old Man is going Turbo!

Postby Cliff8928 » Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:19 am

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Re: The Old Man is going Turbo!

Postby 2.2H8TA » Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:34 am

Ok, sorry , I did'nt read the whole thing yet but, A few months ago I got into an accident in my 02' monte, 3400. Insuranse covered a rental, so I endend up w/ an 08' G6 GT sedan. It had the 3500 in it and I was'nt impressed at all. I innatally figured it'd be pretty fast, small car , light, pretty big V6, but I would take my bigger Monte' w/ a 3400' over that thing any day. I've never experinced a 3400' Beretta, so maybe I would'nt know but, my question is whats better 34 or 3500' for the beretta?. This would be some useful info, seeing as i have a beretta and a 3400 w/ 60k on it, so what would be better for a swap? That or should I go and try to find a 3500'?
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Re: The Old Man is going Turbo!

Postby 3400beretta » Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:07 am

LOL, this should be fun. I will give you my build checklist when I get back to bowmanville so you can start collecting the parts you need. Some things I got really cheap, like the ls1 fuel pump from ebay for $30, and my injectors, which if you don't search around for a deal could easily blow your budget. However, I think this should be doable for ~ $3000.



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Re: The Old Man is going Turbo!

Postby woody90gtz » Sat Nov 07, 2009 10:04 am

hahaha sweet. I've always toyed around with the idea of boost... but I'm a real sucker for a high-compression engine that doesnt like to idle... they sound so bad ass and still get along well with nitrous. haha

Your car will make a good sleeper though. Think about it: an old Beretta GT that idles like stock... people will be clueless. Then when you pull away and they hear the BOV they'll be impressed.


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Re: The Old Man is going Turbo!

Postby IsaacHayes » Sat Nov 07, 2009 2:50 pm

That poor 3T40!!! I think you should drop to a stock FDR.


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Re: The Old Man is going Turbo!

Postby Barry » Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:23 pm

Its a auto so you will only hear the bov when you let off, but it will still be sick.

You may of said it already, but are you going to stretch the FDR some? You can powerbrake it and boost right off the line for a rediculus launch if you can get it to hook up. Autos do have there advantages with boost...



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Re: The Old Man is going Turbo!

Postby MY91GT(Z) » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:11 am

and this old man better be putting this in ol blue as that car deserves to go faster after all she has been through. i hope one of these days i can build a high compression motor to run 12's in my beretta but family and house has taken up any source of income to accomplish that rite now unless i find a better paying job



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Re: The Old Man is going Turbo!

Postby Red_Bra_Black_GTZ » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:50 am

just read the complete thread, have fun, go for it..enjoy your retta..

btw, i was there when you told pinky to get of the bottle.. N/A was the only way to go.. i understand you have your reasons for this beautiful mod..


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Re: The Old Man is going Turbo!

Postby Asylum » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:36 am

The 3t40 will be just fine.

Billy builds them tough. And leaving at idle will delay the boost long enough for the tires to have a chance, LOL!

6200 RPM with 3.73 and 24" tire is ~116 mph. I'm not looking to go that fast.

13.0's -13.20 @ ~110 is enough to beat most of you guys! :evil:

It'll be just fine!! :Yahoo!:


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Re: The Old Man is going Turbo!

Postby 3400beretta » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:44 am

I really think you're making a huge mistake by keeping the 3.73's. This thing is not going to get any traction. Even if you don't have boost off the line, its going to kick in and break the tires loose. If I had a choice in my gearing, I'd be runing something numerically way lower. You should be concentrating on prehaps even the lowest gear ratio you can get, and leaving the line WITH boost, by loading the converter. This will not only make the car more consistent, but you will leave the line hella quick.



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Re: The Old Man is going Turbo!

Postby IsaacHayes » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:53 pm

Yup you don't realize the huge increase in power with boost you will get. We are talking close to 400 crank HP with not a whole lot of boost at all to do that. I don't know how much you plan on running, but if it's 9-11psi, you are going to roast those tires even with a stock FDR auto....


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Re: The Old Man is going Turbo!

Postby 3X00-Modified » Mon Nov 09, 2009 6:01 am

You always make fun of me for the nitrous, but now your getting a snail... same pricipal, but yes you have that "power" 24x7 I know... Since thats the argument everyone has when I say they are the same idea.

The only bad thing about my car is starting it when its 30* out... its not too happy, you just need to start it and walk away for 2 min, it surges for a few till it figures it all out then its fine after that. The issue is I probably just dont have the idle set high enough, OR the billet TB has trouble controlling the idle with how the IAC is machined in it... I'm not sure.



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Re: The Old Man is going Turbo!

Postby MY91GT(Z) » Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:10 am

i know i would like to see a auto beretta run like superdaves if you can build it rite w/o a snail



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Re: The Old Man is going Turbo!

Postby Asylum » Mon Nov 09, 2009 8:19 am

Well I haven't ordered any parts yet and I'm still weighing the options.

Rodney's car is pretty impressive, and he already has the tune.

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Re: The Old Man is going Turbo!

Postby 3X00-Modified » Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:39 am

Yes it is impressive, but as I have always noted and really what keeps me away from a turbo and supercharger is the fact that there is that power there all the time... I have a decent amount of power now to keep me relatively happy, but also keep me out of trouble, and lessen abuse to the drive-line. If your building it for a track only application, have a blast... But I'm not so sure about something that I would like to drive on a on off basis during the summer... It would cost me WAY too much money to build it bulletproof so I would never have to worry about the bottom end wearing out and such.

Stock parts can handle it but its only a matter of time before they let go... Hell you saw what Barry did to a N/A 3500, that piston and rod were GONE... and that's exactly what non forged parts do, they just disappear.

A 3k budget may be a bit tight to keep this thing in on piece for the duration of abuse this first drive-line saw.

Oh and trust me, I've been looking at Rotrex blowers, copying the RSM style kit, and all that wonderful stuff, but since I just don't have the money to throw at it right now, I'm sticking to the laughing gas. Until I have the money to do it right I'm going to just wait.




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