not a beretta but i dang i love this car!

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not a beretta but i dang i love this car!

Postby themadness » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:20 pm

96 camaro with 3.8 v6 and 119k on the odometer. it needs a paint job and a tune up but other than that it beating the streets! i bought it yesterday to replace the cavalier that i bought...then hated. the t-tops dont leak! :Yahoo!:
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Re: not a beretta but i dang i love this car!

Postby Asylum » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:29 pm

NICE!!

Rodney (3400beretta) has an '01 Z28 black on black leather with a Tremac T56 6-speed he never (or seldom) drives.

Love that series Camaro!


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Re: not a beretta but i dang i love this car!

Postby themadness » Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:44 pm

dont get me wrong i will be a beretta fan for life but they are so dag on hard to come by in good shape. i finally convinced myself i deserved a larger engine after driving 4 cylinders for past 7 years. the price was right for sure. i almost didnt buy it though. the kid(28 yrs old) i bought from was having second thoughts because it was his first car and he babied the crap out of it. he actually welled up in tears a little when he handed me the title. i gave him a second shot to reconsider since i know how hard it is to find a replacement for your first car(i.e...berettas)

he was sure of it though and i promised i would take good care of it. the guy loved the car so much that for two years he would crank it and drive to the end of the country road and back just so he could convince his wife to let him keep it.



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Re: not a beretta but i dang i love this car!

Postby Rettax3 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:30 am

themadness wrote: i finally convinced myself i deserved a larger engine after driving 4 cylinders for past 7 years.

Well, that engine, with the transverse manifold of course, would work great in a Beretta, believe me! :wink: Especially with a supercharger on top of it! :D

Nice looking car, I love Camaros but never got into the fourth-gens. Is your new family-member a stick or auto?


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Re: not a beretta but i dang i love this car!

Postby themadness » Thu Oct 24, 2013 7:48 am

its an auto.(not a death sentence by any means)

tell me more of this supercharger you speak of, and what is the magic there in? :sparta:



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Re: not a beretta but i dang i love this car!

Postby Rettax3 » Thu Oct 24, 2013 3:05 pm

themadness wrote:its an auto.(not a death sentence by any means)

tell me more of this supercharger you speak of, and what is the magic there in? :sparta:

The 3800 in my GTU is the same engine as the one in your Camaro. Except I added the heads, injectors, computer and harness from a L67 Super-Charged 3800 Series 2 Bonneville SSEi, and the flywheel from a 3800 Camaro/Firebird from the same era as yours. So, imagine taking the engine from your new Camaro and dropping it into your old Beretta, and adding another 40-50 HP of forced-induction goodness on top of that. :twisted: My GTU's engine is modified a little more beyond that too. It has been a very good and reliable daily driver and very competent snow-car (FWD, and manual tranny for the better control) for the last few years. And it was one of the easiest builds I've ever done, until I went six-speed on that car... :roll:

You could use the L67 3800's computer and modify your wiring harness in your Camaro if you wanted to run forced-induction, but the 3800's M90 Super-Charger would not fit into your car because of how far the engine is pushed back into the engine-bay -the Super-Charged L67 is a FWD engine, so the TB would be on the back of your engine pointing into the firewall! The M90 also came in the Ford 3.8 liter Super Coupe Thunder Bird in the '90s, and the case on it was different to accommodate the RWD Thunder Bird and also to feed the engine through an intercooler (if GM had used an intercooler on the L67, it could have gotten an extra 20-30 HP on top of what it already got :pardon: ). I don't know how hard it would be to modify that M90 to fit the 3800 in your Camaro, but I'm sure it could be done. Or you could use something more generic, like a turbo setup or a Paxton-style Super-Charger, and have the all-GM L67 computer to support it (I'm sure shift-patterns and gear-ratios are a difference you would have to tune for between your Camaro and any L67 application).
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Photos courtesy of Google. On the left, GM's M90. Add a MAF and TB onto the length of that unit... On the right, Ford's RWD application M90, note the shorter snout.


As for the magic inside, here it is. :D
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Abra-Cadabra! Magic!
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Re: not a beretta but i dang i love this car!

Postby 2.2H8TA » Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:05 am

I like these, but I prefer the front ends of the 98's and up though. Nice though, good luck with it!


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Re: not a beretta but i dang i love this car!

Postby spacecadetz26 » Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:53 pm

welcome to the fbody club :)


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