Don't mess with texas - 3400 swap project

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Re: Don't mess with texas - 3400 swap project

Postby themixer » Tue Aug 12, 2014 3:35 pm

an update to the update

heard back from WOT-tech seems that everything is fine with the values, creating a new video tonight of it driving and stalling



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Re: Don't mess with texas - 3400 swap project

Postby michi » Wed Aug 13, 2014 6:29 am

So what 3400 swap engine mount did you get? Are there 2 versions of these mounts?



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Re: Don't mess with texas - 3400 swap project

Postby themixer » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:55 am

Stencil wrote:David Hill makes the brackets for 3400 swaps still. You can reach him at: davehill90@hotmail.com. I believe they are right at $150 if I recall.




Second post to my thread, got the mount from David Hill, it was of super quality and fit perfectly. Just email him with the application you need it for and he will ship it out. Being in canada the shipping was a little more but he didn't mind sending it internationally.

If I remember correctly you had a corsica ? A 3400 swap would be pretty cool in that!



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Re: Don't mess with texas - 3400 swap project

Postby michi » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:05 pm

No i never had a corsica.. always beretta :) I already got a 3400 swap mount like the one rettax3 posted but no 3400 engine yet, lol. not that easy to find just the engine here in europe... pretty much looks like i have to buy a donor car with a 3400 like from a Alero or so.
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i was just wondered why there are two versions of 3400 swap engine mounts...



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Re: Don't mess with texas - 3400 swap project

Postby themixer » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:16 pm

The options on the car you are swapping to dictate the version you need, AC on either a manual or automatic car



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Re: Don't mess with texas - 3400 swap project

Postby michi » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:32 pm

Okay, well my beretta is a 91 GT 5spd. Hope my mount will fit... got it from someone who bought the mount but havent even started with the swap and sold the beretta.



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Re: Don't mess with texas - 3400 swap project

Postby 1988GTU » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:21 pm

michi wrote:Okay, well my beretta is a 91 GT 5spd. Hope my mount will fit... got it from someone who bought the mount but havent even started with the swap and sold the beretta.

They both "fit". One will keep the engine and trans positioned correctly preventing from never ending drive axle issues, while the 'less' fitting one will chew thru axles :nom: :nom:


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Re: Don't mess with texas - 3400 swap project

Postby themixer » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:40 pm

I can verify that it will chew axles, wish it was brought to my attention years ago



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Re: Don't mess with texas - 3400 swap project

Postby 1988GTU » Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:45 pm

When ordering the mount, it has "auto" and "manual" as options. Whom ever sells the mount second (used) and not clearing that info up is being scamming imo.


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Re: Don't mess with texas - 3400 swap project

Postby michi » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:00 pm

Well he said it fits 88 to 91 5spd cars since his car was a 5spd too. I dont even knew where to order these... lol. I remember looking for one some years ago at jbodyperformance but looks like they sell the other style mount and not the one i have.



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Re: Don't mess with texas - 3400 swap project

Postby themixer » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:05 pm

I looked forever for a cadd drawing of one, or even documented dimensions

All I can say is the one I got from David works fantastic



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Re: Don't mess with texas - 3400 swap project

Postby michi » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:09 pm

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So this is the one from david? sorry i havent been active in the last time and have no glue who he is :D



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Re: Don't mess with texas - 3400 swap project

Postby 1988GTU » Thu Aug 14, 2014 7:15 pm

michi wrote:Image
So this is the one from david? sorry i havent been active in the last time and have no glue who he is :D

You can only tell from a measurement of the extension arm to mount from the bracket base. Can't see it thru a picture.

Time to break out the ruler!


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Re: Don't mess with texas - 3400 swap project

Postby Rettax3 » Mon Aug 18, 2014 4:11 pm

michi wrote:Image
i was just wondered why there are two versions of 3400 swap engine mounts...

Mine was designed for five-speed use. I did not build one for automatic placement, just FYI. I do not know who built yours, or what measurements they used, but it could simply be an issue of adding shims (washers) or grinding-down the frame-side mount to move the engine farther forward, but again, IDK for yours. On the mount I made for my car, I actually lowered the engine a little, to help with turbo clearance and as a bonus to lower the center-of-gravity a fraction of an inch, but yes, the compromise will be slightly accelerated CV joint wear -I have yet to need to replace the CV on any of my five-speed Berettas. Again, it is millimeters of difference, and has very little effect either way. If the mount is properly designed and places the engine in the right spot and is strong enough to hold everything in place without flexing, the style doesn't matter. I don't like the idea of such a complex multi-piece mount as used on 60-degree V-6, particularly if there isn't a car to test-mount it in, because it is too easy to get one or two angles off by a few degrees and mess the whole positioning up, but if the part is built right and tested in a car (like mine) or placed in a jig, then it doesn't matter. If it fits right, it fits right. :good:


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