Anyone have ideas on fitting wide wheels????

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Re: Anyone have ideas on fitting wide wheels????

Postby DanteGTZ » Sat Aug 01, 2015 6:33 am

The audi wheels dont do it for me, Cliff. Got some pics of your wheels? Youve got me curious with your +22et.


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Re: Anyone have ideas on fitting wide wheels????

Postby Asylum » Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:59 am

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[edit] You mean to tell me you see no similarities here between those two wheels? C'mon man... Look at those empty triangles between the spokes. Aside from the dish and some modern touches, I think they share some nice similarities.


When you actually look at them like that then YES there is a similarity. As Woody said, it's too bad they don't make one that will actually fit our cars, say a 17 X 8 with a sensible offset.

Just go crazy and have them made. :crazy:


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Re: Anyone have ideas on fitting wide wheels????

Postby Cliff8928 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 2:35 pm

The wheel alignment was totally jacked at this point... The rear still has 225/45R17 with +12.7mm more offset than the front.

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Re: Anyone have ideas on fitting wide wheels????

Postby DanteGTZ » Mon Aug 03, 2015 7:50 pm

Very nice! Looks like you've got a little bit of negative camber going on there, Cliff! Those wheels having that offset they do worked in your favor. In the case of the Cosmis wheels, it doesn't... :( I talked with them today about the possibility of getting them in the correct size/offset and they're not able to... :( x2. Oh well... Looks like my 2nd choice will have to work...


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Re: Anyone have ideas on fitting wide wheels????

Postby Asylum » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:00 pm

And the second choice is................. :Yahoo!:


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Re: Anyone have ideas on fitting wide wheels????

Postby woody90gtz » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:36 pm

Look on the bright side...at least now you won't have to worry about the wheels shattering! haha


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Re: Anyone have ideas on fitting wide wheels????

Postby DanteGTZ » Mon Aug 03, 2015 8:57 pm

I tried to search for instances of Cosmis failures and couldn't find any.


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Re: Anyone have ideas on fitting wide wheels????

Postby Barry » Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:47 am

For what its worth I just put some wheels on my brothers cavalier. I feel that the fender spacing is pretty similar. He does have coilovers however.

The wheels are 17x9 enkei rpf1 45mm offset with a 15mm spacer up front and a 25mm spacer in the back. Making the wheels 30 offset up front and 20 offset in the back.

We run a 245/40/17 tire with no fender rolling or modification. I would expect similar fitment to be possible on a beretta when playing with spacers and possibly rolling fenders.


Also if you ever need extended studs to run spacers, I used 90-93 miata ARP studs. They pressed right in.



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Re: Anyone have ideas on fitting wide wheels????

Postby DanteGTZ » Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:41 pm

Eric, I don't want to give it away just yet. I want to make sure everything fits and looks good before people get an idea of what they are.

Barry, don't suppose you have any pics of the wheels on your bros car? I've seen a couple wheels that I like with a higher offset but haven't really entertained the idea too much; although the spacer stuff might work pretty well. I'd be curious to see what those 9" wide wheels looked like.


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Re: Anyone have ideas on fitting wide wheels????

Postby Red_Bra_Black_GTZ » Tue Aug 11, 2015 5:36 pm

I did the upgrade to 225 50 16 of the Gtz rim. With the lowered suspension I bottom out on the rear tires. I hit the top curved edge of the fender.


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Re: Anyone have ideas on fitting wide wheels????

Postby Asylum » Tue Aug 11, 2015 6:21 pm

Red_Bra_Black_GTZ wrote:I did the upgrade to 225 50 16 of the Gtz rim. With the lowered suspension I bottom out on the rear tires. I hit the top curved edge of the fender.


The only way a 225/50/16 will bottom out on a GTZ is "maybe" with Canuck springs.

Anything else should be fine.

Eibachs, Sprints, etc should be fine.

My 3500 on KYB/Canucks would bottom out in the rear with the trunk loaded with drag radials, jack, tools etc.

My '91 GTZ on Eibachs and KYB is just fine.

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Re: Anyone have ideas on fitting wide wheels????

Postby Cliff8928 » Wed Aug 12, 2015 1:48 am

I don't think it's bottoming out, but rubbing on the quarter panel lip.


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Re: Anyone have ideas on fitting wide wheels????

Postby Red_Bra_Black_GTZ » Wed Aug 12, 2015 9:29 am

Correct cliff, it is hitting the edge of the lip. My tire is to wide for the ride height I have.


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Re: Anyone have ideas on fitting wide wheels????

Postby nocutt » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:14 pm

I have forgotten wheel offsets or even what it means these days lol...but as already been pointed out...you are not getting anywhere without coilovers. It is the better option as oppose to doing a suspension retrofit. I will also add, if you don't have c/o it is difficult balancing the suspension if assuming you race...finally fatter wheels cost hp...especially if you do not have the power to drive them. (there is a happy medium, too much meat...u tend to break things in the tranny too)...anywayz neither here or there...

when I raced the GTU I will "borrow" lol tires (from WCF) these were 255/40/17s for the fronts.

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don't have any pics I can remember taken that showed them flushed with the fender well...
My regular street setup was 235s all the way round (sorry for pooptie cellphone pics)

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but u get the idea...build coilovers, relatively cheap to score parts. Worth it if you race...if u don't I guess one will simply just have to justify it...



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Re: Anyone have ideas on fitting wide wheels????

Postby Alxsmt » Tue Jul 19, 2016 10:08 pm

I think it would work. I went 18x8 with 35mm offset (sig), of course the fenders had to be rolled, I pulled the front out an extra inch or 2 past where I needed.. made me regret going with 18x8s and not something bigger. I was pretty low with stiff coilovers/konis.. no rubbing but the rear wasnt easy to make work. I think that would be the biggest challenge


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