LS1/t56 swap

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Re: LS1/t56 swap

Postby woody90gtz » Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:54 pm

I have Tony's heads on my 383, the eliminators. AFR FTW!


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Re: LS1/t56 swap

Postby Alxsmt » Wed Aug 17, 2016 10:19 pm

nice!! I hear he is THE best. He quit working for AFR and started his own thing. All the results ive seen are unreal


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Re: LS1/t56 swap

Postby bonecrrusher » Thu Aug 18, 2016 7:28 am

Google LSA Adapters on Ebay - should be around $100 - $1500 for them.

Yes they are dirt cheap - hence I have one in the shop, lol.


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Re: LS1/t56 swap

Postby Alxsmt » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:17 pm

you wernt kidding.. 180 bucks.. and what, 300 for an LSA blower? This is gonna make me think.. Maybe I can talk my friend into doing it to his ctsv as a trial lol.

Im hoping to be in a house in the next 6 months or so. A shop is almost my only requirement.. just gotta find one.. then serious progress will be made! A shop means 220v, which means I will be building my frame.

I did a little over the weekend. didnt have too much time but I tested out my new toy and made a center line down the whole car. Its amazing how poorly unibody cars are put together. Measuring the "frame rails" in the car, they are not even close to being the same on both sides. sure, in some spots. other spots are 1/2" off or more. Ill be taking more measurements on the bottom to make sure my rear center point is correct. kinda getting it setup in the rear, but still need to fix the front. Should have a day and a half to work on it this weekend.

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last pic makes me think center is 1/16" off in the back, But I guess ill find out. (yes I did change my rear center point front the 2nd pic, first one was a good guess for the pic)


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Re: LS1/t56 swap

Postby Alxsmt » Sun Aug 28, 2016 11:20 pm

made some good progress over the weekend

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lowered the frame another 1/4", got it PERFECTLY center and square. literally took a day just to measure it out and make damn sure it was right.

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Also decided to find the axle center line, and use that. Instead of doing it how I was. Im really not sure why I didnt think of doing it like this before..

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I think im going to raise it back up a 1/4"... but with shimms. The beauty of mockup using C clamps! those tires are REALLY bald, and the tires Im going to run are also more square. With all that I think it should sit a lot better. If not I guess it wont kill me to lower the car a tad, it wont mess with the geometry too bad doing that with coilovers, were talking a quarter to half inch at most. Building it to race, not sit on a trailer and look all stanced out.

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Turned to the lock! It clears. The other way almost clears.. rubs on a seam and also the inside of the fender. Very minor, Just didnt feel like cutting that yet.

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I started to build a dummy shock and a temp mount, but Then I had an idea.. Grabbed the mount that came with subframe and well.. Confirming with koni to make sure they have or can make a shock in the correct length, then I will have this tig welded on! done and done!

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decided to figure the back end out a little more and think about how and where to put the temp supports. This should be easier to mount, Need to figure out my roll center on the rear still.. Might do that next weekend. I know your thinking "buy premade tubs and be done". Well, I thought that too. Side to side is very different.. and its also already attached to the side of the car! If I do it like this, leaves more of the car unhacked and I think it will be less work too. And I really dont want to weld on my qtr pannels and warp them! But anyways, Ill be cutting clear into the back seat maybe about an inch. I might just try and raise the factory floor the ~5" its going to need in that area. well see, this is a starting point, everything seems to always change!


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Re: LS1/t56 swap

Postby woody90gtz » Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:56 am

Chop chop. Haha


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Re: LS1/t56 swap

Postby Alxsmt » Mon Sep 19, 2016 9:19 pm

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got a little bit more done a few weeks ago, but ran out of gas for the welder..


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Re: LS1/t56 swap

Postby themixer » Tue Sep 20, 2016 7:21 am

that's a gas welder? looks like flux in the pictures



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Re: LS1/t56 swap

Postby Alxsmt » Sat Oct 15, 2016 3:46 pm

Yep. Lincoln 140c with co2/argon. In the last few pics, thats galvanized steel, thats why it looks odd. Just scrap basically, will get cut out once it has a frame.


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Re: LS1/t56 swap

Postby jjanke » Sun Oct 16, 2016 9:40 pm

dam !!!! lots of progress since i last checked in !!! keep it up man



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Re: LS1/t56 swap

Postby bonecrrusher » Mon Oct 17, 2016 7:35 am

What rear end are you going with?


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Re: LS1/t56 swap

Postby Alxsmt » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:03 am

jjanke wrote:dam !!!! lots of progress since i last checked in !!! keep it up man


Thanks! I think your WAY ahead of me tho. Ill have to check your thread out tonight


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Re: LS1/t56 swap

Postby Alxsmt » Tue Nov 01, 2016 2:06 am

bonecrrusher wrote:What rear end are you going with?


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no new updates, still have yet to buy gas for the welder.. waiting to hear back about an offer I put on a shop. I mean house. lol.


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Re: LS1/t56 swap

Postby Alxsmt » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:38 pm

Finally had a chance to work on the thing again. Finally ended up getting ahold of a house, So I would like to get the car rolling soon at least to get it in my garage. Then the real progress can be made!

but this is where im at now. not TOO much farther. but its progress.

figured out where I need to be for the rear roll center, 5 3/4" (front is 2 7/16"). I think that will do for a baseline anyways.
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took me 3 tries to get it right..

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Diagram for the koni 8212 for the front. I think Im going to have to build a new front shock mount, as it sits I will have about 3" of total travel. Im not sure I like that.

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Got the back of the car supported a little better for the cutting thats about to take place. It will need more I think before it can even support the weight of the car. its only welded to sheet metal.

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I need a raise! These working conditions are terrible!

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Thought it was an interesting view..

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where it sits now. need to cut more out of the front side sadly. the front mounts are hitting the body. Ill be doing that next weekend if the weather is decent.


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Re: LS1/t56 swap

Postby woody90gtz » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:52 am

Keep plugging away...


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