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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2002 8:18 pm
i had off of work today and decided to do the brakes on my car. i jacked up the front, had the tires off and looked at the brakes... the driver side "warning metal piece" (is that what it is called?) was touching the rotor so i know that i don't need Bearings
Just when i was about to take off the caliper i tried all of my torx bits but they didn't fit. I have the T-47, T-50, and T-60.... I don't have the one i need or do I?
What size do i need? i'm gonna go buy it tomorrow so i can finally do my brakes this sat morning.
Thanks in advanced
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2002 8:36 pm
You might not even need a torx bit. In the haynes manual it says to use a #50 torx bit, but I ended up needing a 3/8inch allen wrench instead. I'd check and see if that is what's needed before buying the torx bit.
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2002 8:50 pm
I also had to use a 3/8" allen wrench....maybe the Haynes manual is wrong here...or maybe it is just year specific
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2002 8:53 pm
well i don't have any allen wrenches, nor the T-55 which i think it is? although i could be wrong... Hopefully my friend has that piece or else i'll hvae to buy it. I'm not real sure on prices of tools but what will i probably pay for a set of Allen wrenches or just that single one?
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2002 10:17 pm
It should be an allen, the older brakes were torx.
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2002 10:30 pm
had the same prob, a few look like stripped down torx screws, and the others look like big ### allen wrenchs...so im just takin it to my mech and havin him deal with it
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2002 8:37 am
Taking the torx or allen bolt out is the easy part. The hardest part of doing brakes is putting the putting the darn bolt back into the hole correctly. I always have hurtin knees the next day.
The only way to learn is to do it yourself and that way is the easiest way to save money. Ryan get off your butt and save some money.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2002 10:02 am
Yes mine also was allen instead of torex. Its a pretty big allen wrench but you can get a set that vary in size for like 20$ at sears. My recommendation when doing the brakes is to bleed them and not just push the piston back into the caliper when taking the pads off. My friend did this and somehow did something to his master cylinder. It ended up being expensive to fix. He's the only one i've ever heard have a problem.....but its just something to think about.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2002 4:10 pm
Let me voice an opinion here, this is really frustrating to see all the speculation back and forth here, if you don't know, say you don't know! Sorry for being grummpy, but no one takes the time to have the facts before speaking out
. So, I'll step up to the plate; 1987, 88, & 89, were suppose to have ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€ Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Â ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€ Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ a 10mm internal hex (aka "allen") on the front brake caliper mounting bolts*. In 1990 and 91, there was a design change in the calipers, and (will take my own advise here and say) I DO NOT KNOW what type of bolt was used to secure the front calipers, but Chris (14 ase Certs) should know, he has a 90. In 1992 to 96, another design change in the calipers, and GM was using a torx (or "internal star") design to the bolt, and that size was a TORX 55*. Please note, that the asterick designates the following: *= as supplied by GM at the time the vehicle was built, and there is the posibility that SOMEONE has since changed that bolt with a substitute. So to clarify it one more time, 87 to 89 is 10mm allen, 90 & 91 is I don't know off hand Sorry, post it if you know for sure. And 92 to 96 is a torx 55, unless otherwise altered!
ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€ Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Â ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¬ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Â¦Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™Ãƒâ€ Ã¢â‚¬â„¢ÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚Â¬Ãƒâ€¦Ã‚Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ Gm used a 3/8 allen on their calipers back before most of you were born, meaning the 70's and a few might have carried as late as 1980, but don't bet on it, they started converting to metric in 1975 and 1976. Those are the facts
, Thank you.
Posted: Thu Mar 21, 2002 6:56 pm
Well I actually just think that Haynes didn't have a Beretta at all, let alone a newer one. You may notice that most pictures show a 2.8L Corsica. If you examine the pictures, I don't think there is a Beretta anywhere.
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2002 9:12 am
Beretta ,Corsica did not matter---my 90 has a t-55 torx as well. The reason alot of you are running into the allen bolts is because the torx are easy to strip out and the aftermarket replacement ones are allen bolts. hehe
. MY advice to Kmkalf is if the t-50 torx was too small but the torx was the right pattern to fit in the head of the bolt then get a t-55 for about 6$ and you will be fine. YOu will need to compress the caliper piston--do one side at a time--then resinstall the new pads--do not forget to lube the caliper slides ( the sleeves that the caliper bolts go into ) so that the brakes will wear evenly.
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2002 11:22 am
i dont feel like runnin out grabbing new allen wrenchs, and new torx bits, it cost me just as much there as it would to run in to bozek(my mechanic)...besides, hes gonnna solve my mystery rattle once and for all! (ZOINKS!
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2018 3:19 pm
I have an '88 bought in '87.
The original calipers had Torx bolts, the replacement calipers I put on came with Allen bolts.
Sorry, I do not remember theTorx size.