2 potential LS swaps

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Supra update!
I just bought a complete 01’ Z28 for parts. It’s been hit a few times so it’s not totally straight but actually looks decent. I mainly bought it because the 01’ motor will be stronger and it’s had some stuff done to it.
https://youtu.be/9jnrkf119v8


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That car looks too nice to part out. Nice cam lope and stick shift too. It sounds tough.
I'd like to have something like that to knock with.
So you gonna pull that motor and put it in the impala?


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ifixalot wrote:That car looks too nice to part out. Nice cam lope and stick shift too. It sounds tough.
I'd like to have something like that to knock around with.
So you gonna pull that motor and put it in the impala?


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Tempting. That car would look tough with a wide rear tire and some power.
The Camaro looks nice but structurally I think it’s a can of worms. What a weird phrase.
Anyways if I’ve always wanted do a part out like this and help some people make their cars nice. Assuming I can get my money back out of the power train I’ve been sitting on, if I can sell $1500 worth of parts off of this I’ll have a nice motor upgrade for free.
Still doing some buffing on the Impala here a there. The first swap meet I wanted to take it to has been canceled.


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It looks like it could use a little love, but I like it! That mods list mean it should be a pretty damn fun car. Just rusty?

T56s rock. Cam specs are pretty similar to the grind going in my 383.


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Not bad as far as rust goes. It’s just been hit a few times and just slapped it back together just to get it on the road. He was planning on swapping the Powertrain into something else. Looks like nothing on the right side is original. Both quarters were replaced, but they were put on quick n dirty in the garage so there’s some gaps and alignment issues. It still looks good going down the road just not a show car.


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95' Integra 240whp / 04' Z71 Tahoe/ 85' K20/ 15' IS350 Fsport
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Supra update!
2 years ago I had been sitting on my LS1 and T56 and other various swap parts for the car when the 01' Z28 showed up on Craigslist. I need to stay the hell off Craigslist. Anyhoo, bought it from a guy in Milwaukee, I put tags on it and dailyed it for the summer. That car is a monster! It idles like a drag car and sounds incredible. You just breath on the gas and it hurls you down the road or blows the tires off. At wot traction usually shows up in 3rd gear on normal street tires. On the down side the clutch was an on off switch and it the valvetrain sounded like a typewriter. I don't know enough about top ends to know if thats a valve adjustment issue or the style of rocker arms used or something else... The oil level would also be steady for a month and then suddenly loose well over a quart randomly. WTF?
What I found driving it was that I was scared to beat on it. I would launch it occasionally short shift to second and lean on it a little then go back to cruising out of fear that I was gonna blow it up.
That summer I pulled the Supra in the shop to get it ready for the swap. I started pulling interior out of the back to get access to the fuel pump. After less than an hour something clicked and I stood up and said this is getting a 2J.

Stay tuned for the rest of the story


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And now for the rest of the story. <<<1000 points for anyone who knows what thats from.

The longer I keep this car the more obsessed with it I become. What I love about my GSR (and the 3 integras I owned before this) is I have zero concerns that its gonna blow up on me even with 190k on motor, making about 85hp over stock, smacking limiter at autocross at 8500RPM! Anything can happen but theres no fear keeping me from fully enjoying that car. I want my Supra to feel the same way.
Occasionally I wondered if I would get tired of the Ls swap and want to switch to something like a 2J. Then it turned into "am I gonna wish I had done a turbo 6 before I even finish the Ls swap?"
Once I realized this car was staying Toyota powered it was both a huge sigh of relief that I wasn't gonna put alot of time into something I would regret, and a huge mindF#%# that:
A: now I have to sell $9000 worth of crap just to get back to ground zero with this project
2: the 2JZ swap is going to be far more complicated meaning the Bonneville will now be the next project and this car goes to the back burner
C: Its gonna be hard to switch gears to the Bonneville swap when all I want to do is obsess over what the new Supra project is gonna get.

For the longest time I wanted to get a 300ZX. Then I changed my mind and thought about a MKIV Supra, an NSX or a Corvette. Ive always wanted a sports car. It took me a long time to realize that I already have one. And it suites me. An 80's box with flip up headlights does a lot more for me than most modern cars. And a MK3 Supra is more of a comfortable GT car than a sports car which I like because my hope is this will be something I drive the wheels off of in the summer.
2J prices are pretty insane now. But comparatively the prices are high on everything. Hell if seen GSR powertrains go for $5500! Luckily for me the LS1 crap has gone up too. Ive now sold the Z28, and all the other LS stuff I had accumulated and made good money on all of it!
I recently pulled the trigger on an 52k mi 2JZ-GTE VVTI motor out of a Toyota Aristo.
https://youtu.be/pI3ZTCmroAs


90' GTZ 189whp NA 14.00@99 / 237whp 50 shot 13.3@104
95' Integra 240whp / 04' Z71 Tahoe/ 85' K20/ 15' IS350 Fsport
projects: 86 Bonneville 6.0 swap / MkIII Supra 2J swap / 91 Volvo 740
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Godlike wrote: And now for the rest of the story. <<<1000 points for anyone who knows what thats from.

For the longest time I wanted to get a 300ZX. Then I changed my mind
Walter Kronkite? :unknown: :oops: -Oops, just double-checked the spelling, sorry Mr Cronkite... I'm sure I could wiki-cheat it... :roll: But I'll just take my guess instead.

Fantastic direction for your Build. Sigh, I am still working on my 300ZX -back-burnered for over ten years now. Life really IS what happens while you are busy making other plans... Eventually though, I still plan on making it a 450ZXTT, all Nissan drivetrain parts, and a couple of spare transmissions in case the V-8 VH45DE with added Twin Turbos starts shelling them out -light-weight Z31 car though, so the transmissions MIGHT survive?


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Sorry, I was looking for Paul Harvey. He did a radio show I used to listen to reruns of riding around in my dads F150 in the 80s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rest_of_the_Story
Hopefully if you keep a small enough tire in the back, you can break traction instead of breaking trannies. Thats my hope for the weaker NA supra diffs I have. There are two guys running Z31s with my autocross club. I rode in one of them. Super fun capable cars


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95' Integra 240whp / 04' Z71 Tahoe/ 85' K20/ 15' IS350 Fsport
projects: 86 Bonneville 6.0 swap / MkIII Supra 2J swap / 91 Volvo 740
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Godlike wrote:Sorry, I was looking for Paul Harvey. He did a radio show I used to listen to reruns of riding around in my dads F150 in the 80s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rest_of_the_Story
Hopefully if you keep a small enough tire in the back, you can break traction instead of breaking trannies. Thats my hope for the weaker NA supra diffs I have. There are two guys running Z31s with my autocross club. I rode in one of them. Super fun capable cars
Ahhh, darn! At least I played. :D
Back in the day when I had asked ROLNGTZ about the 'custom' $600 CV axles he had bought for his 3800 SC Beretta and if they were needed for length/sizing/transmission output spline compatibility or just strength, his response was.. Snarky, at best, talking down to me about the 'strength' of stock CV Axles being insufficient for the 3800. My response was almost verbatim "breaking traction, not CV axles"... :lol: For the record, while MY 3800 SC Beretta has now locked-up the F40 six-speed transmission, it is because the synchronizers have failed (a known issue on the '06 F40s), not because I shelled it out or broke gears. After well over a decade driving mine, I have yet to break (or even wear-out) a stock CV axle...

Good to hear there are still some Z31s running around standing up for themselves. I've had mine for a LONG time (GLL Turbo -really impressively equipped, even by today's standards), drove it home for $100 and love the car. It locked-up a camshaft some years ago and it has been a project-in waiting ever since unfortunately, I did get a second NA one that was a fun daily-driver (5-speed non-turbo) but an arsonist destroyed it ~ten years ago.

Is your Supra diff open or LSD? Did they have stronger diff options that can bolt-in from later Mks? I've liked those Supras for a long time, liked the older models first and still do, but your era grew on me too, they are just priced too high for me to pursue. My better-half's dream-car is a Supra, so my ears always perk-up now when someone mentions one.


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1990 4.0L 4-Cam 32-Valve V-8 5-Speed Indy GTi (Project)
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Mine is a 4.30 with LSD clutch type with high miles so im sure the break away torque will be pretty low. I also picked up a 3.90 LSD for $100 but I plan to save my pennies for a Grannas racing T56 mag which favors a shorter gear. The turbo diffs are stronger and there is a company that will modd the rear subframe to work with an Explorer IRS 8.8" but its not cheap.
I have the original set of 88 saw blade wheels and a set of 1991 5 spokes, both 16". Those should be easier on the diff than most aftermarket combos.
The only downfall is they don't really allow for any kind of big brake upgrade. The stock brakes are notoriously not great. So many things to consider...


90' GTZ 189whp NA 14.00@99 / 237whp 50 shot 13.3@104
95' Integra 240whp / 04' Z71 Tahoe/ 85' K20/ 15' IS350 Fsport
projects: 86 Bonneville 6.0 swap / MkIII Supra 2J swap / 91 Volvo 740
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