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Posted: **Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:24 pm**

I had 3 dudes jumping on the rear of it with no problems... Snow is not going to test anything.

Posted: **Sun Dec 25, 2011 2:49 pm**

It'll test if that crossmember will flex under load and those welds.... Not trying to bash you at all with the setup i will go different in some aspects of the swap since like on facebook i just found a 240 rear end and a buddy in florida is doing the swap too, keoki? on here joined recentlly. I just dont want any unfortunate accident with that rear barring all gm converted rwd cars from maybe competing in fd events is all.....

Posted: **Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:25 pm**

Well alpine, start your own thread and tell us in there. Alpine untill you guys show us the "right" way to do it, I think your critisism needs to end. Shits getting annoying

Posted: **Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:45 pm**

Wow the right way you can tell from the fricken pictures that thats not that "right way" to do any of this crap. and i bet my critisism does get annoying but thats who i am so idgaf

Posted: **Sun Dec 25, 2011 7:10 pm**

Think about the forces that this crossmember sees. Then consider the way the subframe is mounted in the 240. It sees mostly side to side forces, in which a 22ga member would even be plenty, I used 1/8". Really the only up and down it sees is torque from accelerating and braking. I feel that that is minimal compared to the side to side forces.

Like I said I am building this car to take a beating and looks come second. If you ever build a rwd beretta you can use as much expensive fancy steel as you choose, it's your project.

As for the banning rwd swapped gm cars in FD.... Face palm

Posted: **Sun Dec 25, 2011 9:44 pm**

I don't think anyone here is trying to bash you for what your doing, and I don't think anyone here is a mechanical engineer either. With that being said, people have different opinions of what is right and what's not. First and foremost, I have been thinking about this swap myself for a while now. It wasn't until alpinestar brought this to my attention about someone actually doing it. And for that, I aplaud you and your work. But I plan to go a different route all together to get the 240 subframe up and in the rear of my 95 GAGT. We share a lot of similarities from your beretta to my ga, but I personally feel that modifying the front 2 points of the 240 rear from the vertical mount to the horizontal mount would be more solid and rigid. Its an opinion based assumtion that I feel that I wouldn't want to mess with the factory unibody/frame structure. I think it would be easier to reinforce the 2 new points on the 240 rear than it would be to reinforce the unibody/frame. But since I joined the party late, I couldn't give you my opinion and it was to late. Anyway, I plan on building a jig to align the rear end and modify those front 2 points so I can just bolt it in at the front half and weld up a heavy crossmember for the back 2 mounts. Either way, no one here I think wants to see this fail. But we are all trying to back you up and give you our opinion, just so no one gets hurt, including yourself.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:16 pm**

keoki1978 wrote:I don't think anyone here is trying to bash you for what your doing, and I don't think anyone here is a mechanical engineer either. With that being said, people have different opinions of what is right and what's not. First and foremost, I have been thinking about this swap myself for a while now.

watch yourself, i went to school for mechanical engineering.... some of us on here know a thing or two more then you may think, just because we own and drive beretta's, doesn't make us poor or mean we lack knowledge.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:22 pm**

if this was facebook, i would like that

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:45 pm**

speedy wrote:
keoki1978 wrote:I don't think anyone here is trying to bash you for what your doing, and I don't think anyone here is a mechanical engineer either. With that being said, people have different opinions of what is right and what's not. First and foremost, I have been thinking about this swap myself for a while now.

watch yourself, i went to school for mechanical engineering.... some of us on here know a thing or two more then you may think, just because we own and drive beretta's, doesn't make us poor or mean we lack knowledge.

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:05 pm**

I'm also a mechanical engineer, just didn't graduate yet.

Pulled motor today. A few points to note:

I need a rwd timing cover. Was gonna modify the fwd one but it's easier to do it with a rwd one.
Our brake boosters are huge and are totally in the way. This issue sucks.

Tunnel cutting is going to be a lot of cutting haha

People that want parts please pm me everything is available now

Posted: **Mon Dec 26, 2011 6:10 pm**

Barry wrote:I'm also a mechanical engineer, just didn't graduate yet.

Pulled motor today. A few points to note:

I need a rwd timing cover. Was gonna modify the fwd one but it's easier to do it with a rwd one.
Our brake boosters are huge and are totally in the way. This issue sucks.

Tunnel cutting is going to be a lot of cutting haha

People that want parts please pm me everything is available now

i'll still take the seats and springs/shocks n struts off your hands, i also have your bumper yet, other then them parts, i cant really think of anything off hand i need.

Posted: **Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:46 am**

Posted: **Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:58 am**

Barry wrote:I'm also a mechanical engineer, just didn't graduate yet.

Pulled motor today. A few points to note:

I need a rwd timing cover. Was gonna modify the fwd one but it's easier to do it with a rwd one.
Our brake boosters are huge and are totally in the way. This issue sucks. [\b]

Tunnel cutting is going to be a lot of cutting haha

People that want parts please pm me
everything is available now

I've heard that you can get electric brake boosters and they are quite a bit smaller maybe try looking into that.

Posted: **Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:48 am**

what happened your front bumper? damn!

Posted: **Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:13 pm**

Ehhhhh I hit a lot of stuff. Mostly crashes in the snow. It's amazing that I have been off the road like 6 times in this car and only the bumper is to show for it

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