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Re: HID light conversion

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:28 pm
by 3X00-Modified
Appears to go through the switch... Maybe its time for a foglight wiring harness up there to give them full voltage.

Re: HID light conversion

Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:12 pm
by woody90gtz
I don't see the headlights in that diagram at all. Only the parking light, brake & turn circuits.

When I rewired my Camaro I used the load wire from the headlight switch to the control circuit on the relay, and a strong battery source for the load circuit in the relay to the headlight bulbs.

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Re: HID light conversion

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:55 am
by 13's or bust
Kris GTwhat? wrote:have you guys ever seen how bad a beretta is with hid's and stock us-spec headlights?

i feel like i am wasting my time though, kids will be kids and you guys dont care about other drivers so what does it matter right?
i have stock headlights and 6k hids, and i dont blind other people. i drove past my friend on a 2 lane street, he didnt go blind, but i sure did. He has a gtp stock headlights and 8k hids plus 8k fogs.

Re: HID light conversion

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 8:32 am
by 3X00-Modified
Whoops on my part... I saw Headlight switch and thought it had an output off of it... I didn't dig any deeper. But I'm assuming since the fuse is 20amps that the circuit powers both the headlights and the parking lights...

I'll check my diagram again tonight to see if they have a separate page for the headlight circuit but I'm almost certain its not on a relay.

And yes woody.... what you posted is exactly what a fog light wiring harness is... A low voltage switch side that controls a relay directly connected to the battery or heavy distribution block thats connected to the battery.

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More info on wiring for fogs and such, as well as some headlight aiming procedures.

http://www.accessconnect.com/fog_drivin ... wiring.htm

And Jon, I think saying your friend didn't get blinded is not the ultimate test. Bottom line it is illegal to install HID's into a Halogen housing due to the way they refract light and that it will spread light that is too bright in areas that can impair the oncoming driver. 6k vs 8k as well does not determine light output, but I would say your 6k's have more light output than your friends 8k since his are too blue which lessens the actual output of the light. HID's also have wattage just like regular bulbs... Most are 35w and the Offroad ones are 55w, so maybe your friend is running 55w ones and yours are only 35w. Just consider yourself lucky that you have not been nabbed for it, but if your car does have to go through a vehicle inspection that will most likely fail the car.

Re: HID light conversion

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 10:25 pm
by 13's or bust
I have never been in a inspection of such standard. His hids are 55 watt by the way. so that might have something to do with it.

My next daily driver is gonna be getting 35 watt 12k hids, and ill also be ordering 55 watt 10k hids for my dads denali. My beretta is gonna be getting some foglight love and some 35 watt 6ks for down low. i think itll increase my visibility alot.

Re: HID light conversion

Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:26 pm
by woody90gtz
3X00-Modified wrote:And yes woody.... what you posted is exactly what a fog light wiring harness is... A low voltage switch side that controls a relay directly connected to the battery or heavy distribution block thats connected to the battery.
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To be technical, that's just a run-of-the-mill relay. If the headlights on Berettas aren't wired with a relay, I'm sure the fog light harness on factory Z cars aren't either.

I always run everything that draws a lot of amperage with a relay. I'm surprised the factory didn't for the headlights.

Re: HID light conversion

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 12:48 am
by Cliff8928
The fog lights have a relay. They have to for regulation so that they shut off when the high beams are on.

The headlights don't have a realy... Mine do now though, especially for when all 4 65w bulbs on.

Re: HID light conversion

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:57 am
by 3X00-Modified
woody90gtz wrote:
3X00-Modified wrote:And yes woody.... what you posted is exactly what a fog light wiring harness is... A low voltage switch side that controls a relay directly connected to the battery or heavy distribution block thats connected to the battery.
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To be technical, that's just a run-of-the-mill relay. If the headlights on Berettas aren't wired with a relay, I'm sure the fog light harness on factory Z cars aren't either.

I always run everything that draws a lot of amperage with a relay. I'm surprised the factory didn't for the headlights.
Yes that is why I posted it... its a diagram of a "standard foglight harness" or "run of the mill relay" if you want to call it that... its the same way your headlights are hooked up, just replace the switch in that illustration with your dash switch. I did not say anywhere that was how the Beretta headlights or foglights are done...

My statement of using a foglight harness is referring to the aftermarket wiring harnesses with connectors that you can buy to make the install of aftermarket fog lights easier... That can be used to make your headlights run off of a relay if you wish to splice it in.

Something like this
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Or yes you can do all the wiring yourself if you know what your doing.

Re: HID light conversion

Posted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:53 pm
by woody90gtz
Cliff8928 wrote:The fog lights have a relay. They have to for regulation so that they shut off when the high beams are on.

The headlights don't have a realy... Mine do now though, especially for when all 4 65w bulbs on.
You know, I got a foglight harness from Brendan a while back and never installed it yet, but I don't recall seeing relays with it?

Re: HID light conversion

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:25 am
by Cliff8928
It depends on what year it is to where the relay is.

Re: HID light conversion

Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 11:21 pm
by 90GTZHO
i just pulled my engine and light harness from my 90 and it has a relay for the foglights. On the GTZ/Z26 cars its mounted right behind the battery on the drivers side upper frame rail tucked in under it. Its held on with a single 10mm screw

Re: HID light conversion

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:44 am
by 3X00-Modified
woody90gtz wrote:
Cliff8928 wrote:The fog lights have a relay. They have to for regulation so that they shut off when the high beams are on.

The headlights don't have a realy... Mine do now though, especially for when all 4 65w bulbs on.
You know, I got a foglight harness from Brendan a while back and never installed it yet, but I don't recall seeing relays with it?
Stock Z26 Beretta foglights do not have the relay on the exterior of the car it's inside under the dash part of the interior harness somewhere and even I didn't install it that way. I used an aftermarket foglight harness under the hood in conjunction with a factory Z26 lighting harness and just sent the wire that went inside for the fogs direct to the dash switch so yes my fogs stay on with my high's.

Re: HID light conversion

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 1:58 pm
by Cliff8928
Yeah, the relay location changed over the years... At least the early ones were under the hood.

Re: HID light conversion

Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:56 pm
by 90GTZHO
Damn, and here i thought i was being helpful :(

Re: HID light conversion

Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 2:30 am
by weba
I can confirm that 90-91 had the fog light relay just behind the battery. Also it only needs one wire to be disconnected to have the fogs stay on whenever you want.