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CORBRETTA is born!
Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 9:55 pm
by Norm 88GT
I have size them up in a few locations and see how they fit. The C5 setup has the tanks right before the rear wheels, inside the rails. That way it almost impossible to puncture. With the Beretta's stock tank remove that area might get taken up by the transmission. I have some pics posted later for opinions.
I like to keep them in somewhat stock local as the lines have a really slick squeeze connector but their all hard lines. :-(
Norm
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Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:38 pm
by Norm 88GT
CORBRETTA is born!
Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:07 am
by zach82
Nice. How are you gonna manage to stuff those monster tires under the front end? Or is the plan to put some smaller ones on there before it's finished?
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 12:13 am
by Norm 88GT
(zach82 @ Apr. 07 2006,00:07)Q
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ENice. How are you gonna manage to stuff those monster tires under the front end? Or is the plan to put some smaller ones on there before it's finished?
The suspension is not weighted, nor are there a frame rail holding the upper control arm so it looks decieving.
Norm
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 1:10 am
by zach82
True, I suppose it'll squat down a lot once it has some weight on it.
Think I'm gonna run 215/60/15 on the front and 245/60/15 on the rear. Want the front to be down a little more squat than the rear anyway.
Man that's sure coming along speedily. Any rough guesstimates on time until this thing will be ready for some trial rolling?
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 7:09 pm
by IsaacHayes
Norm, true, but not sure the diameter of the C5 wheels are over the size of L body. Plus suspension travel while the front wheels are turned might hit the fender? I guess it's too early to guess until it's sitting there and you can see where you're at. The F-bodies the motor sits way underneath the dash compared to a c5 where most of it is exposed. I'd rather work on a motor in a c5 than fbody...
On the gas tanks, not sure, but maybe one of those foam fuel cells in the trunk. Might end up bending all new hard lines all the way back too if the stockers don't work...
Looks funny with the wheels sticking out. But I'm sure it will look different and that can be tweaked. Wheels sticking out the back wouldn't look so bad, it's the front that makes it look like those silly low riders with the wheels "bolt on backwards"
Wow the motor is sitting where you should be!! And the shifter is behind the front seats? Are you going to drive from the rear seats?? Where would the brake/gas/clutch pedals go? Hmmm. That seems to be the biggest thing now. Defiantly want to change the plugs/wires now. Or make some easy access panel like a van with the motor inside the cabin...
But seriously, hows the pedals/seat /shifter going to work out.. ? hmmm.
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:46 pm
by Norm 88GT
(IsaacHayes @ Apr. 07 2006,19:09)Q
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ENorm, true, but not sure the diameter of the C5 wheels are over the size of L body. Plus suspension travel while the front wheels are turned might hit the fender?
I guess it's too early to guess until it's sitting there and you can see where you're at. The F-bodies the motor sits way underneath the dash compared to a c5 where most of it is exposed. I'd rather work on a motor in a c5 than fbody...
On the gas tanks, not sure, but maybe one of those foam fuel cells in the trunk. Might end up bending all new hard lines all the way back too if the stockers don't work...
Looks funny with the wheels sticking out. But I'm sure it will look different and that can be tweaked. Wheels sticking out the back wouldn't look so bad, it's the front that makes it look like those silly low riders with the wheels "bolt on backwards"
Does this front end make it's width look big?
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/ ... hassis.jpg
Wow the motor is sitting where you should be!! And the shifter is behind the front seats? Are you going to drive from the rear seats?? Where would the brake/gas/clutch pedals go? Hmmm. That seems to be the biggest thing now. Defiantly want to change the plugs/wires now. Or make some easy access panel like a van with the motor inside the cabin...
But seriously, hows the pedals/seat /shifter going to work out.. ? hmmm.
245/40-17 diameter is the same as 205/60-15.
Does this front end make it's width look big?
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/ ... hassis.jpg
Who says you need to work on a modern motor. Just have to ask the passenger to check the oil.
Patience, grasshopper. You'll see.
Norm
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:43 am
by Norm 88GT
As I was about the set the chasis down on the rolling gear I noticed that the C5 over the axle exhaust might be a bit large for the rear of the Beretta. I thought it might be a bit too short, but the length look fine its the width it's bulky muffler that show from the rear and side.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/ ... -c5017.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/ ... -c5019.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/ ... -c5022.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/ ... -c5018.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/ ... -c5021.jpg
This system came with the C5 and is a Bassani with X-pipe as seen in previous posts of photos. Hmmmm....
Norm
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 1:03 am
by Norm 88GT
I need some help with which exhaust exit I should go with?
http://www.beretta.net/board/ib3/ikonbo ... &f=9&t=305
Norm
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 12:38 pm
by wicked-irocz
for the exhaust cut the muffler, move the end plate in, reweld. Keep what you have now.
The engine really sits that far back when its bolted to the C5 chassis?
The fuel line can easily be extended. Cut the C5 hard line, flare the ends, install fuel injection hose, use fuel injection clamps.
Your moving like crazy, are you on vacation?
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Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:22 pm
by Norm 88GT
Monster hole!
I finish putting the window weather stripping in and decided to work on the door inards. Originally I was going to keep the stock interior door open lever and rework the C5 inner door skin. Things turn out differnet when their in your hands.
I took the stock door lever and striker off. It should match up fine with the stock C5 stuff since the stock stuff is longer and I'll just cut and rebend to the right length. This will allow me to put the C5 interior opening lever basically where I want, a little short of the stock stuff to accomodate the interior C5 skin without reworking it. The striker and catch will require some adjusting to make work. Even the exterior door handle pushrod from the C5 will work the C5 door latch. This will all be run through the stock C5 wiring.
2000 and up C5s don't have key cylinders on the passenger's side....either will mine. Might keep it there as a dummy. The keyless entry unlocks the doors.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/ ... -c5001.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/ ... tch004.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/ ... tch005.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/ ... tch006.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/ ... tch007.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/ ... tch008.jpg
Norm
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:03 am
by Norm 88GT
Here is a pic of the torque tube removed from the engine via the pressure plate/clutch. I removed it because the bell housing needed replaced. Also wanted to see if the torque tube was free spinning. A few replacement parts and back together it goes and ready for the chasis.
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/ ... ube003.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/ ... ube002.jpg
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c284/ ... ube001.jpg
Norm
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 12:46 pm
by IsaacHayes
Norm, from that angle in the pic hard to tell. It doesn't look as wide as the L body, but I'm not there so pictures aren't the best to judge stuff like that..
Exhuast, defianlty want to go with 2x dual tips like the c5 has. Perhaps space them out so the tips are like the stock location for a gtz/z26, only having one on the right side as well. I think that would look the best on a beretta.
Are the brake lines on the C5 gear, or c5 body? Wonder how hard it is to replace the clutch in a c5 that isn't disasembled like your stuff?
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:49 pm
by Norm 88GT
The exhaust pipes were not connected to the muffler for the pics but give a reprentative pic of what they would like in their place at exit. The C6 mufflers come over the diff at the same place and exit straight back in small pair of mufflers. I do think they shortened the C6 rear end length compared to the C5. Time will tell. Wheel width measurents show were about 4" difference. I will not have to spacers at autocross events.
Norm
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:54 pm
by Norm 88GT
The brake lines are attached to the rolling gear. We drained it during disassembly, nasty blackish looking. Not sure but drivetrain has to be disassembled like any other RWD.
Norm
