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LOL I can't remember it was humming thats for sure.

One thing I learned out of this whole ordeal, I can't rebuild brake calipers as simple as it may seem... Both of my N-body ones locked up and dragged badly... I had to swap back to the F-body stuff to just go for a quick ride, and even those the damn brass washer ended up not sealing and leaking on me... LOL I can't win. But I forgot how fun that car was.

I'll be purchasing two reman's from advance sometime soon probably and then swap back to the N-body stuff. All I can say is if that swap back is going to bring back some of my acceleration loss... then holy crap... Its already pretty good with the converter but I have to drive it some more to be 100% sure.

LOL I can't remember it was humming thats for sure.
I'll bet!
Shoot man I know how to rebuild calipers(or I think I do as you said). I just wanted to save time when replacing my soft lines, rotors and calipers and bought some reman from Car Quest. I went everywhere looking for better ones, but couldn't find any. Damn things had a 10mm bleeder on the drivers side and a 3/8 on the other. So watch out. I was just checking the seals and not looking at the bleeders because the first box they brought me had a folded seal. I asked for another. Hope these things don't kill me. Be sure to check your new ones. Brass? I thought they were copper seals.
Glad to hear that you will get some of your acceleration back with the swap. Guess you will be done bitching about that(lol).
I wish I had your converter, but I really don't need it with my basic mods.

This converter is very weird tho, at least it feels weird on the street. And I'll be sure to check the bleeders now that you said that. Brass copper, same difference, and yeah I hope I get back what I lost with that brake swap... Hell the car went from a 14.0 flat car to a 14.7 best... That's a big loss.

Fuked something up... Trans has almost no line pressure in park, should be 255-300 in P,N,R but it's 150 if that... I don't know if I did something wrong or if something failed and is now causing issues... Either way I'll be spending tomorrow trying to find the issue, basically removing the trans... And I'm friken burning this converter. Things always go wrong when I try to use it.

I'll try a different/NEW one some other day.

What? Oh no man what the hell? What brand is that coverter? I have changed ny mind on wanting that converter.
That was a huge loss on your time and it's crazy that the brake upgrade did that.
If you need my old trans it's yours.

His brake upgrade likely did not break the converter. But he could have gotten a bad one.

The converter has always been weird when I've tested it... Ive never kept it in for longer than a week...

First time I ever tested it I had a 4th hub fail on a maden voyage to test my first trans... had to pull it that night and bought a stock converter to go back in, I didn't like the feel on a stock motor. This was back in 05 or 06... Can't remember when... It sat in my garage from then till 2008... with a cap on it.

Second time tried it, last year I noted that it had a 4500 brake stall... I thought that was too high so I pulled it, and you wouldnt feel any shifts, they felt SO sloppy.

This time I noticed a shudder in OD when I left a light (test driving the car) and I didnt know what it was, I had been using D before and it was fine seemed like it was slipping alot but its a 3100 stall converter so I thought nothing of it... Once in OD I knew there was an issue...

I need to drop it today and check all the internals to make sure nothing is wrong in there... And then I'm going back to my trusty 2095 HD converter.

This is a PDQ converter that I had bought off of ebay and was supposidly never run, so who the hell knows whats up with it.

I'm hoping nothing is wrong with the trans internals ESPECIALLY the clutches... I can deal with a hard part failure, but damn I don't need to drop another 140 on a set of clutches again.

I'll update you guys tonight with what happened.

and yeah the brake swap had nothing to do with this.. MAYBE... I might have fried the converter trying to move with the GA calipers locked like that... who knows. I can only hope its that simiple.

DTMAce, he means it crazy that the brake swap took my car from a 14 sec car to a 14.7 car... But when you take a rotor that weighed 10lbs before and replace it with a 20lb one... thats one hell of a rotating weight increase.

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh that sucks 3x00-, hope you the best in the discovery and repairs. Just note, that you will probably have yours apart, reassembled and driving again before I finish mine....

Well its all apart... LOL

Found the issue and I can't stress this enough.

TAKE YOUR TIME WHEN BUILDING SOMETHING

I rushed and now I'm gonna pay for it.

This is what I saw when I was draining the torque converter.



HOLY BLACK FLUID. It looked red when pouring but once concentrated it black as night. This is when I thought, Oh TQ fucked.... but nope....

I dig deeper and I found this. BTW The clutches are supposed to be Red...





Only after showing Amy what happened I then realized why. I used a WIDE c-clip to hold in the 3rd clutches, and a thin one to hold in the input ones. SO when the piston applied it wedged itself up and got stuck on the wide c-clip... There was no room for it, so then once applied the input clutches never released and burnt to hell.

SO, I need a clutch kit pack kit, maybe some sprags depending on if one is fried, and then I need to send the TQ off to get cleaned or ask them how I should clean it... hopefully that's possible.

That is a case of bummeritis, good thing you can prescribe yourself some hard liquor until parts arrive and you get it all back in driving statue.

Holy hot pack plates batman!

That really blows dude. Guess it wasn't the converter after all this round? lol

I still think its jinxing you though.

Yes I know tell me about it.

I'm going to see if PDQ can take it and clean it so I can use it again... AND to test it and tell me what the stall actually is.

Wow, that sucks. Same thing happened with my throwout bearing though...slapped it together too quick.

Thats balls man. Don't feel too bad though, it happens to the best of us.

Woody I thought of you and your throwout bearing when I took this apart... LOL

So far its looking like 170 in parts, (a few extras I want to get in there too, some o-rings and such) and about $90 in fluid... and then I'm not sure what PDQ will say but I asked them if it was possible for me to clean out the torque converter, or if I could send it in to them to be cleaned out, and then tested so I know the stall. So that may be another 100 or so if they can do that.

Kinda pricey for one damn c-clip. and I only found ONE side view section that shows you which c-clip is wider... lol all the other illustrations don't say, narrow or wide, or even visually show a difference. But I just read a section that says... "Install the 3rd clutch backing plate snap ring, as shown in Figure 122. This snap ring is the "Thinner" of the two backing plate snap rings" DAMNIT! LOL