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Okay, couple things:

Firstly, I think there was MASSIVE MISCOMMUNICATION in this thread. Jon was asking plenty of good questions and from what I have seen there was some bush beating and a few circles were involved. I did see that a few people were saying "DERP! IT'S EASY!" instead of answering, or attempting to answer. Hell I've forgotten more about my cars maintenance and mods in the past 6 years to choke several horses, so I was right there thinking "How in dafuq does this work" Up until the middle of page 5 everyone was calm, cool, and Jon was full of questions concerning other things that I also wondered about. What is the maint required on these? How often? How hard is the installation? While these questions are EASYILY answered when you HAVE the parts installed, seeing as that was not the case it could have been easily answered by the manufacturer.

I do think that J(88_GTU) seemed to have taken these questions as a direct assault for some reason. His response to Jon's post about press fitting the bushings in came off rather rude. Quoting J:

... "Someone" did ask. Countless times. I left a ton of voicemails and sent a ton of emails so you can quit with that line. If you want to know if he'll make more than you can do the legwork this time. I can't say that I was very happy with the lack of answers or contact I received from the gentleman I worked with at GW but I've been far less happy with the crap I've dealt with from you. ...

If you don't have an answer for someone, why couldn't you just say "Hey, I asked, but have yet to receive a response about that. I'll keep asking though"? I get that "someone" was talking to the company, but it doesn't give that "someone" permission to talk to someone else this way, who has legitimate questions! I also don't understand how an initial question of "how exactly do these get installed" is not as good as another question asked about the grease fitting. I feel there was no need to be rude about one persons question, then turn around and tell someone "great question!" in the same post...

The old saying "There are no stupid questions, just stupid people" comes to mind...

After reading through all posts, I feel that Jon tried to defend himself a couple of times and while he got pretty heated up in his second to last post, he was fine. I also feel that while J DID NOT openly attack Jon, the content of previous comments posted skirted that grey area like a Scotsman on a windy day. Realize that this is the Inter webs, and while it is "srsbisnis" we should treat each other the way we would want to be treated. Maybe proofreading and message context should be checked before clicking that big shiny "SUBMIT" button, as it would have helped everyone involved out.

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Secondly, another one of Jon's questions still stand. Were there any conversations about setting up a group buy with this company other then the 5 units purchased already? If not, could the contact information be posted so that we could elect a ball roller for this? I would like to buy two sets, so if anyone else is interested speak up!

88_GTU wrote: In my own defense, I did try to get answers during my time dealing with Global West but grew increasingly frustrated with the severe lack of communication on their end. I decided against a group buy because I did NOT want to be responsible for other peoples money when I wasn't sure if I was being ripped off or not.

I have given a set to my friend who makes prototypes for a living and he's already making new sets. They'll be indenticle to GWs other than the blue anodizing. As soon as the first set is done I'll post pics and THEN if there's interest I'll have no issue with putting together a group buy.

J