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Z26 on Crosslaces... Beat up!

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 3:41 pm
by Styluss
http://cosprings.craigslist.org/cto/3409380526.html

It's too bad that this Aqua color is not very prevalent or I would scoop this up in a second for a flipper.
Although I am still kind of interested, but not at $700.

Re: Z26 on Crosslaces... Beat up!

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:11 pm
by speedy
$700 means he's aiming for $500. And god dam your cheap, a running driving z26 for $500. Wtf you think crap should be free then you can sell it for $2,500???

Re: Z26 on Crosslaces... Beat up!

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:57 pm
by Money pit Beretta
Free dents, got to love them. Blue book is $1,400 my hairy butt, not for that thing.

Re: Z26 on Crosslaces... Beat up!

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:01 pm
by GTU89
speedy wrote:$700 means he's aiming for $500. And god dam your cheap, a running driving z26 for $500. Wtf you think crap should be free then you can sell it for $2,500???
I can see what he means though, if you are going to get a car to flip you should stay away from ones with dents and scratches and whatnot, those "little" things bother alot of people, including me lol.

Mechanical is much easier to fix than cosmetic IMO.

Not a bad deal though.

Looks like it may have been pretty nice before the current owner got it, and WTF is hanging out of the trunk? Is that that weird stuff (to kill vibrations?) that goes behind the newer filler panels?

Re: Z26 on Crosslaces... Beat up!

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:05 pm
by Money pit Beretta
Yeah it's the seal for the filler panel.

Re: Z26 on Crosslaces... Beat up!

Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 7:28 pm
by speedy
sorry, didnt see the dents on my phone...

Re: Z26 on Crosslaces... Beat up!

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 5:03 pm
by Styluss
speedy wrote:$700 means he's aiming for $500. And god dam your cheap, a running driving z26 for $500. Wtf you think crap should be free then you can sell it for $2,500???
I could never sell this, or ANY Beretta for $2500. Never. The most I have ever gotten for a flip car was $1700.

Think about it Speedy... If I was going to buy this car for myself to keep and use then $700 would be a damn steal. Hell it still is a steal! But for a flip car there are a lot more things to consider, mainly the aqua color = Hard to find *same color* replacement parts. Specifically the front bumper. Let alone the spoiler and possibly door to fix the dent. The bumper and spoiler alone are what is keeping me from buying this car to flip. Though those wheels make me want to overlook those parts. The $500 number comes from the fact that I would get a good set of wheels (with a single mismatched tire I might add) and some other parts; fog lights & signals, seats, muffler tip and more. Those parts would hopefully get sold into the community and then the car would go to scrap to try to break even, which won't happen.

Many of you need to remember that I can afford to be this picky out here. These cars are a dime a dozen not only in the junkyards but on CL. I have bought and sold something like 13 of these in the last 5 years. Lost money once or twice but made money the other times. Sometimes it's a couple hundred bucks but once it was $1200. The red car I just sold? I made $700 for a literal 20 hours of my time. I call that a good weekend's work. Hell I took a $98 car, a complete junker, and turned it into $400 profit. I have taken one car from wrecked and "totaled"' to back on the road as a great car. You have to remember that it is not only about the profit... Although that is the main driving factor people don't understand that I take a lot of pride in getting parts back into our community and cars back onto the road in better condition than when they were sold to me.

Oh, and Money Pit, the Blue Book value for this car is indeed $1400. This year, these options listed in "Fair" condition = $14XX per the KBB website.

And people see the mileage and say "Wow, that's a lot of miles". But no one ever does the math in order to realize that per the national average this car has over 40,000 miles LESS than it "should".

Re: Z26 on Crosslaces... Beat up!

Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 6:08 pm
by Money pit Beretta
Mileage is mileage to me. I don't care how old or new it is, 140k means alot of things that need to be replaced(or should be). Or that the car may be rusted out. It's like you have a 1960 whatever and say it has 500k on the body and that is a good thing.
Nor does options matter if they are not working and the whole car is trashed. By what KBB said the in ten years that car could go for $2,800. No one in their right mind would pay that.
Just remember this is not a shot at you. These days people are asking too much and the blue book is not realistic.
I wish I would have thought about you when I saw this car on CL. It was a 68 Buick Skylark for $5,500. It was freaken mint, OEM everything and 68k on it. Could be with a few small parts and some detailing it could have sold for twice as much. If you were to ask what the fools want for these cars then it would have been 20k
That kind of money would have helped you save a few Berettas.

Re: Z26 on Crosslaces... Beat up!

Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 1:07 am
by berettaboi
get another front bumper, get a local body shop (or rather paint mixer/supplier) to mix you up a couple cans of paint, go to town. when i had "colored" cars, not black... it cost me $20 a spray can to get some mixed up at a body supply store. and that's why i now like my blacks car and trucks!

the "ding king", i have one, brand new that's 5 years old... glue on tabs and yank on them to pull the dent out. buff it out.

Re: Z26 on Crosslaces... Beat up!

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:48 pm
by Rettax3
I'm just shaking my head here. NADA, KBB, whoever, won't tell you what a car is worth, dealers don't use them or even consider them, they have their own sources, but what a car is worth is either A) what you can sell it for, or B) what you would want to keep it for, that's it, period. I agree with what Styluss said, for the price that car is a steal, but it won't work well as a fix-n-flip. The problem is that Berettas aren't worth anything on the market, and haven't been for a few years. Honestly, I don't understand why.

Look, styling is purely subjective -do you like the look of the car or not? But facts are facts: Berettas handle quite well, even in inclimate weather -I used my turbo '97 Z-24 and my 3800 SC GTU as my snow-cars last winter, and I ALWAYS made it where I was going with them -we've had 40 inches of snow fall in 26 hours at my house, so I'm actually saying something there. in 1988, the Z51 GTU pulled -what was it? .92 lateral Gs on the skid-pad, almost unheard of for a FWD car then, and with 1988 rubber, I might add. We've seen these cars modded with all kinds of engines, some even with non-GM powerplants, and even one or two from Japan -almost anything fits in these. The bodies are light-weight, the sheet-metal was (at least initially, I don't know if they kept doing this all through production) double-sided galvanized (zinc-coated) for rust inhibiting, and most of them came with features like delay wipers, rear window defog and cruise-control -initially these were all standard equipment (I think even A/C was standard, with a credit option for deletion).

But, they just aren't worth anything anymore. $700 for a car that runs and drives, one that isn't rusted-out, and even has sporty wheels and ground effects? Bargain! I bought my '95 Z-26 for a few hundred bucks because of a blown engine, I drove my GTU home for under $400 -I don't know why, but Berettas just don't sell.

Money Pit is right about the mileage, 140k is when things start really wearing out on these cars, but I say fine, buy the car for $700, put $300 into making it look pretty again, and stand back with another $1k, ready to fix whatever might start going wrong, struts, bushings, water-pump, whatever. $2000, and you've got a nice-looking, good-running car completely up-to-date on maintenance. Now go to a dealership, and ask them how far $2000 will get you, and you'll either get laughed at or asked sincerely what happened to the other zero...

Personally, so long as no one else realizes what these cars are, the prices on them will stay low, that works for me. I'm not done buying them yet. :Bravo:

Re: Z26 on Crosslaces... Beat up!

Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:15 pm
by Rodville
Styluss your lucky. There isn't a single Beretta for sale in the whole state of FL. If anyone comes across a clean gold on gold 2.2 5-speed please let me know.

Re: Z26 on Crosslaces... Beat up!

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:08 pm
by 1990BerettaGTZ2.3L
If I was closer I could flip it cheap cause I'm a bodyman and really it would just be my own leisure time and add material to the cost turn around and sell her for 2500-3k

Re: Z26 on Crosslaces... Beat up!

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:09 pm
by 1990BerettaGTZ2.3L
Rodville wrote:Styluss your lucky. There isn't a single Beretta for sale in the whole state of FL. If anyone comes across a clean gold on gold 2.2 5-speed please let me know.
Could have had you one in Ohio a couple months ago

Re: Z26 on Crosslaces... Beat up!

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:03 pm
by GTZfan
Ryan, be aware it might be a Quad4! The add states the car is fun to drive and its a 94...
However as he had to change the trans, it might rather be a V6/auto.

Re: Z26 on Crosslaces... Beat up!

Posted: Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:08 pm
by Rodville
One of the pics looked like it had a quad IDI in it