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AC compressor seized.

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 5:53 pm
by Chris88CL
Well, looks like my air conditioning compressor just seized up on the Z26. Started making a god awful noise and now smells like burning rubber. Popped the hood and theres little puffs of smoke coming from the AC compressor. I assume its melting the belt.

Now, its freezing cold here and I dont really care about the AC at the moment, nor do I feel like working outside in the garage in this weather.

Can I get away with leaving the compressor in place and getting a belt for a NON-AC motor in the meantime, or will the non-ac belt not fit with the compressor still in there

Re: AC compressor seized.

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:05 pm
by Asylum
There was a non-AC belt available for the 2.8/3.1 but I don't think there is a specific application for the 3100.
You may be able to come up with a shorter belt by trial and error or get an A/C delete pulley from a parts store.

Re: AC compressor seized.

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:36 pm
by Chris88CL
Yeah I dont want to completely delete the AC. I just dont want to screw with it until later on. Likely spring time.

I`ll pull the belt tomorrow and hit up the parts store and see what I can find.

Re: AC compressor seized.

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:51 pm
by Money pit Beretta
Your defrost will not be as effective without the AC. It is used to pull moisture out of the air when the defrost is on.

Re: AC compressor seized.

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 7:30 pm
by Chris88CL
Money pit Beretta wrote:Your defrost will not be as effective without the AC. It is used to pull moisture out of the air when the defrost is on.
Yeah Im aware of that, but its dry as hell here anyway, so Im not too worried. Eventually I`ll replace the compressor. I just dont feel like it right now. I`ll price a new one out tomorrow and see if its worth it. I still have to get a shop to evacuate the system and then charge it back up once the compressor is in there again.

Re: AC compressor seized.

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:12 pm
by berettaboi
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/moreinf ... cc=1028854

$26 for my 95 3100. I recall someone saying you can use a shorter belt too, i'm just not sure which engine... or belt size

Re: AC compressor seized.

Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:14 pm
by wi_corsica
Remember that the A/C will not operate below about 40 degrees F, so in winter it won't matter if it works or not, for defrost.

Re: AC compressor seized.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:25 am
by 3400beretta
You can use a shorter belt, however I am not sure if it will clear with the compressor still in place. See if you have a clear line of site from the water pump pulley to the crank pulley. I have the part number for the correct short belt I used on my 3400 for like 5 years. I'll post it if you want it.

Re: AC compressor seized.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 8:16 am
by 3X00-Modified
That's an extremely small contact patch on the WP pulley though...

I used a bypass pulley for Roberts engine when I built it.

This is missing the PS pump, the belt goes over that pulley and I do not think it overlaps the WP much at all...
Image

I can get a photo of the PS pulley and WP pulley if you want, I actually drove my car to work today.

Re: AC compressor seized.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:25 am
by Chris88CL
3400beretta wrote:You can use a shorter belt, however I am not sure if it will clear with the compressor still in place. See if you have a clear line of site from the water pump pulley to the crank pulley. I have the part number for the correct short belt I used on my 3400 for like 5 years. I'll post it if you want it.
Yes PLEASE!

Re: AC compressor seized.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:47 am
by 3400beretta
3X00-Modified wrote:That's an extremely small contact patch on the WP pulley though...

I used a bypass pulley for Roberts engine when I built it.

This is missing the PS pump, the belt goes over that pulley and I do not think it overlaps the WP much at all...
Image

I can get a photo of the PS pulley and WP pulley if you want, I actually drove my car to work today.

No offence Jon, but if I didn't know for a fact that it would work I would have kept my mouth shut. I ran my car for over 5 years like this with NO issues whatsoever.

Chris, the PN I used is 6PK1525 or Gatorback PN 4060600. Now I believe I had a tensioner with the smaller pulley on my car, but I honestly cannot remember for sure. So depending on which tensioner you have on your car, you may have to go up or down one size, but at least its a place to start.

Re: AC compressor seized.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:52 am
by Chris88CL
Sweet, thanks.

I dont expect to have any cooling issues. If anything, all I`d expect would be some belt squeal if I hit a big enough puddle to get the belt wet. But even that is doubtful. And from Jon`s pic it looks like I wont have any issues running the smaller belt with the AC compressor still in place.

Re: AC compressor seized.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:37 am
by 3X00-Modified
3400beretta wrote: No offence Jon, but if I didn't know for a fact that it would work I would have kept my mouth shut. I ran my car for over 5 years like this with NO issues whatsoever.

Chris, the PN I used is 6PK1525 or Gatorback PN 4060600. Now I believe I had a tensioner with the smaller pulley on my car, but I honestly cannot remember for sure. So depending on which tensioner you have on your car, you may have to go up or down one size, but at least its a place to start.
I just think it's such a small patch that's all... never stated it wasn't going to work but it's just something to note.

Re: AC compressor seized.

Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:32 pm
by Chris88CL
Whoever engineered the upper passenger side motor mount needs to be shot. Got the old belt out, FINALLY. I`ll go back out and continue freezing my butt off in a bit. I really really hope the belt works. What a pain in the rear.

Re: AC compressor seized.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:16 am
by 3X00-Modified
Chris88CL wrote:Whoever engineered the upper passenger side motor mount needs to be shot.
Agreed :deadhorse: LOL