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Car won't start....it's pissing me off.....HELP!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:57 pm
by Beretta_gal
Ok guys this is begining to really piss me off,and i'm so close to selling this thing it isn't funny.....first off it's a 95 2.2. and as the title states it won't start. I have been having this problem since December,As it started getting colder the car would hesitate to start,but finally when it did it would be good for the rest of that day and fire up every time after it was shut off...until the next morning then the same thing wouldn't start. As time went on come January,it was getting harder and harder to start and yoou would have to pump the hell out of the gas to get her started,and again,once started for the day she was fine for the rest of that day. Come Febuary now she won't start at all....will crank but won't start. I took it in to the mechanic and he tested fuel pressure and volume and said it was great so therefore it's NOT my fuel pump. He did however scan it and pulled up that my Temp Sensor was bad,so that was changed. That was the only code it pulled,and even after replacing the Temp Sensor...the next day again it wouldn't start. 
I contacted the mechanic again that day and told him that it will not start,he told me that the Temp sensor could have been bad for too long causing my ECM to have went bad...so I replaced that....went out today to start her up and again....IT WOULDN'T START....what the hell could be going on?!?! Any advise would be appriciated as i'm at my witts end with this beast.....Here's a list of what has been replaced in the last 2 months:
CPS
TPS
Coil Packs
Plugs/wires
Fuel Filter
ECM
Map Sensor
Temp Sensor
EGR was cleaned and new gasket put on
Re: Car won't start....it's pissing me off.....HELP!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:13 pm
by DTMAce
Do you lose coolant?
Re: Car won't start....it's pissing me off.....HELP!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:35 pm
by Beretta_gal
no loss of coolant
Re: Car won't start....it's pissing me off.....HELP!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:51 pm
by Wanako
Temp Sensor making the ECM go bad?? I've never heard of such a thing. I could be wrong though.
I see that you've replaced the Coil Packs but have you seen if the ICM (Ignition Control Module) and it's connections are ok? That would be the only thing I can think of considering that you've tested for fuel pressure and it's good. I'm not too sure about 2.2's but don't they have only one fuel injector since they're TBI? check to see if that Injector is still alive too. maybe? someone wanna chime in?
Re: Car won't start....it's pissing me off.....HELP!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:00 pm
by Beretta_gal
No, I haven't checked ICM or connections....I was actually speaking to the lady at the part store about a week ago and she mentioned something about the ICM,but then said "never mind,that's only something when the car gets hot"....??? as for the one injector...Yes my dad said there is only one,and he did clean the TB......I'm stumped!!! I LOVE my car,I have done sooo much to it since getting it just over a year ago,but damn....all this at once!!!
Re: Car won't start....it's pissing me off.....HELP!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:05 pm
by NastyEllEssWon
i know this seems simple, but have you checked the starter? when you crank it does it crank strong and just fails to start?
Re: Car won't start....it's pissing me off.....HELP!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:08 pm
by Beretta_gal
yes cranks strong,just won't start
Re: Car won't start....it's pissing me off.....HELP!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:49 pm
by Kris GTwhat?
personally, i think its time for a new mechanic.
bad temp sensors wont cause an ecm to go bad. sounds like your car is possibly bleeding off fuel pressure overnight. your fuel pump might be putting out enough to get it going all day once its built up pressure, but a slow tiny leak that would only show up overnight is very possible. have your "mechanic" check your fuel pressure in the morning before you start it. i bet it'll be none.
Re: Car won't start....it's pissing me off.....HELP!!!
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:18 am
by SuzukiGhostRider
What he said. ^^^
Re: Car won't start....it's pissing me off.....HELP!!!
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:11 am
by NastyEllEssWon
do those cars come with an IAC?
Re: Car won't start....it's pissing me off.....HELP!!!
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:18 am
by SuzukiGhostRider
Yes. Why wouldn't they?
Re: Car won't start....it's pissing me off.....HELP!!!
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 1:27 am
by NastyEllEssWon
well i was wondering because im not fully familiar with the TBI setup, which it obviously has if it only has one fuel injector. was just wondering if those came with it or not...maybe that would be something to look into. im just picking at low hanging fruit at the moment.
Re: Car won't start....it's pissing me off.....HELP!!!
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 4:04 am
by Wanako
Beretta_gal wrote:No, I haven't checked ICM or connections....I was actually speaking to the lady at the part store about a week ago and she mentioned something about the ICM,but then said "never mind,that's only something when the car gets hot"....??? as for the one injector...Yes my dad said there is only one,and he did clean the TB......I'm stumped!!! I LOVE my car,I have done sooo much to it since getting it just over a year ago,but damn....all this at once!!!
Wait... What??? I've learned never to listen to parts store people... with very few exceptions. Looks like either she misunderstood or completely didn't know what she was talking about and trying to pretend she did know.
Don't lose hope. That's the great part about old ass cars. They're a big puzzle but DAMN you're satisfied as hell when you nail it.
Re: Car won't start....it's pissing me off.....HELP!!!
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 11:45 am
by 3400beretta
FYI that car is multiport - it has 4 injectors. Only the old 2.2s prior to '92 were TBI.
Re: Car won't start....it's pissing me off.....HELP!!!
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2011 2:38 pm
by Money pit Beretta
IAC?
Could be suck. Clean the port.