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a used place downtown may have them. he said he woud look and call me back. whats a fair price for the wheels and the wheels with tires?

wheels with tires around $400 and without $200

this depends more or less on condition, lets assume there mint, no curb rash, with almost new tires, a good brand tire too, then i might pay $400 from a used parts place, lets say there in typical condition, some curb rash with half used tires, then maybe, maybe 200 if he has the center caps too, lets say theyre from some young kids beater car and look like 20 year old wheels with some pitting, a little bend in a wheel or 2(you wouldnt notice this unless you spun them without the tires) and crap tires.. .then $100-

they are at a used tire place......firestone i think. they are probably in typical shape. he hasnt called me back yet