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So im looking into buying 2 1990 gtz quads with 5 speeds.

I dont know anything about this engine. one car runs, one died so he drove the other car until buying a truck.

What kind of options does a 90 gtz have.. like interior ect.. do they have the newer style gtz seats like the z26 ? i assume they have the older style dash, and probably have the one of a kind gtz door panels.

What are some common problems with the quad engines, some things to look out for.

Does a 90 gtz have any special suspension parts that makes it different then other models ?

One of the 2 cars will be forsale, i hope to make it to bfest and drive one down or trailer it and hopefully someone other then me will be driving it home lol. ill be keeping one for myself but i need to sell one to cover my cost.

This is still in the making it happen category so nothing at this point is set on these cars getting to my driveway and being parked beside my 88 and 96. still awaiting pictures and details and to find out shipping cost beginning of the week. I assume body wise they will be in good shape with very minimal rust if any at all, coming from western Canada.

I will keep this updated on how things go, in the meantime im still interested in learning out some facts about this car.

Only pictures i have atm..

Seats are the same style as Z26...and yes they will have the old dash. Door panels aren't special except for a GTZ emblem instead of GT or a Bowtie.

The quads require some maintenance. My first car was a 90 GTZ and I had an oil pump on it (which is pretty common.) They are also known for head gasket issues and cracked coil pack housings.

Take a good look at the condition of the car before you buy. Those quads beg to be beaten...mine didnt spend a lot of time under 4000rpm because that's where they make the most power.

Where are the GTZ wheels for the maroon car?

well they are 3500 KM away so i wont be seeing them in person before i buy i am awaiting pictures though to get a better look.

I dont think the guy knows alot about mechanical stuff, he just says he dont know whats wrong with the red one. he was driving the red one and i guess it stopped running so he drove the white one until he could save up and buy a truck. They are in Alberta and i have herd the roads there are crap because they dont have provincial taxes so cant aford to make every road pretty, the guy moved away from where the cars are sitting now so im assuming he needed the truck to get around and has no use for a car.

The price is good, its the shipping that will hurt. if the cars were here for the price im paying for them i would double my money just for scrap, kinda hard to pass up on this deal lol. My 88 base came from alberta and its a very solid body very very clean car, so unless these cars have been parked in a swamp for the past 5 years they should be in great shape body wise.

Its probably something simple like a head gasket on the one, the other car was still running when he got his truck and parked it.

I have no doubt in my mind that i can make both cars street able again, pretty handy with anything, just havent had a chance to work on a quad yet, i have changed head gaskets on a 2000 sunfire 2.2 L though lol

Whatever car is in the better condition will be the one i sell so i can get the most money back from it, the one i keep if it takes me a year or 2 to rebuild the engine and make everything new again then so be it, if i didnt already have a 88 3.1 5 speed or the 96z26 auto, i would just throw in a v6 into the car i keep, but i want the quad so i have something different then the other 2 i already have.

And i really want to see the looks on all my neighbors faces when i have 4 nice looking beretta's parked in front of my house.

woody90gtz wrote:Where are the GTZ wheels for the maroon car?

no idea lol. i do have a set of gtz rims though with 1 spare. im supposed to be picking up a 95 z26 end of the month to part out with z rims i can put on my 96, so my gtz rims could end up on this new car.

Im still not certain the deal will go through so im not getting to excited about this just yet

beretta wrote: I have no doubt in my mind that i can make both cars street able again, pretty handy with anything, just havent had a chance to work on a quad yet, i have changed head gaskets on a 2000 sunfire 2.2 L though lol

Changed headgasketS on a 2.2? I guess I must have missed where they stuck the 2nd one...

Working on a Quad 4 is nothing like working on a 2.2 or the v6 engines. A 2.2 headgasket is like a 3 hour job from start to finish. You won't even come close to having the head off of the Quad in 3 hours your first couple go-rounds.

Who knows what's wrong with them. A quad is not a good engine for a dumbass owner, and the previous owner sounds like a dumbass.

Unless I had a crapload of time to burn and money to flush down the toilet, I'd let those 2 old birds go.

i know how to work on stuff, im not a total knob, i was just looking for some feedback on some typical things that is common on the quads engines.

Worst case v6 swap but that defeats the purpose of having something different then what i already have

Quads are simple to work on and diagnose IMO. I can pull a quad head in about an hour now, but it's quite a choir! If the maroon car just stopped running, it's likely an electrical issue, (CPS, ICM, fuel pump, etc). OEM head gaskets on the quads are crappy, put on a Felpro and new head bolts and problem solved. Quad heads are prone to cracking between the valves, especially the 086 casting which both those cars should have if original.

GTZ's are equipped with the FE7 suspension which consist of sportier coil springs and the direct acting front sway bar.

That's it really, nothing else is unique about them. BTW, all Quad 4 Beretta's are Z04 cars and all are 5 speeds. Also, all 1990 GTZ's are Quad 4's, no V6 models in 1990. They never made a V6 5 speed Z04 car either.

Any other questions, just ask. I can tell you just about anything you'd ever want to know, lol!

They look nice man. I must ask, why does it look like there is also a red one? Are there three?

yeah ask the present owner to take a video of the car running, and not overheating... so common with them as they age and have not been maintained. parts can get costly as well. i would say not worth the hassle, but if it runs perfect, then maybe... but highly doubtfull

berettaboi wrote:yeah ask the present owner to take a video of the car running, and not overheating... so common with them as they age and have not been maintained. parts can get costly as well. i would say not worth the hassle, but if it runs perfect, then maybe... but highly doubtfull

The cars are at his parents they have been for the past 3 or 4 years, he does not live there has not been there and lives a good distance away, this is why im still awaiting pictures for him to get his mom to take pictures and email them to me.

The red one stopped running he doesnt know whats wrong with it, it died he parked it jumped in the white one and drove it until he bought a truck it was running good when parked.

The only way to get a really good look at them and determine what could be wrong with the red one is to drive out there and check it out for myself, for the price he wants for them its not worth me spending $700 on gas to drive there and back plus 6 days on the road driving straight.. might as well spend the 1,000 for shipping and have 2 nice looking cars sitting at my house.

I know what your saying though, it would be nice to look at them first but there is no way to do that, and i would really like to have a quad to add to my collection. its not about if it runs or not, its about having that quad gtz at my door step. if it needs work so be it, it wont be a week project and on the road right away, i will slowly work on it as i have to keep the 96 up to date to stay on the road and my 88 will be back on in the spring. it will be a project, if it runs good and dont need much then thats a bonus.

If they havnt been parked in a swamp or out in a field for the past 3 years then i gaurentee the body will be in better shape then a 2 year old car in Ontario, my 88 is very very clean underneath and the pink slip was still registered in Alberta. And yes they are Pink.. Ontario ownership is green.

Both cars he did have on the road, red one just wouldnt start one day probably and he didnt want to pay a shop to figure it out he had the white one sitting there probably swap his plates and way he went.

I could spend the next 10 years to find another quad gtz around here, its not like you pass one everyday on the road lol, and it will be a nice addition to my collection.

beretta wrote:

berettaboi wrote:I could spend the next 10 years to find another quad gtz around here, its not like you pass one everyday on the road lol, and it will be a nice addition to my collection.

I hear that! Besides my own Quad Z26, I have only seen 2 other HO Quad cars on the road in this general area of Wisconsin in the past 10+ years! One was a 92-94 GA GT, and the other is a buddies Achieva SCX! I have also seen 3 HO Beretta's, 1 HO Calais International, and 1 HO GA GT in salvage yards the past 3 years... Get them while you still can and SAVE THEM like I did with mine!

I'll be shipping a quad 4 engine out to Alabama soon to help save an 89 GA, and I just recently sent out a 955 cylinder head to a member on here from Colorado so he can revive his quasar GTZ! I've been doing my best to support the quad 4 community, but it's getting to be slim pickings here too...

Quasar GTZ in Colorado!? Who dat? I thought I knew all the Colorado Crew.

DUBS28 wrote:Quasar GTZ in Colorado!? Who dat? I thought I knew all the Colorado Crew.

GW, he's WAY South on the other end of CO... http://www.beretta.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=8730

Lol, yeah like 5 1/2 hours away but in the same state. Still that's really cool. Sure is going to be a nice car when its done too.