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Tips/strategies on changing spark plugs?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:24 pm
by 96B-Mike
I wondering if you guys got any helpful tips and strategies on replacing spark plugs/wires since i never done 'em myself and i do have a friend of mine that is willing to help me out.

Before i attempt on replacing the spark plugs/wires i do notice that 3.1 v6 looks like a pain in the ass (the rear three obviously)..is it easier from reaching from the top or get under and squeeze your way in?

thanks in advance

Re: Tips/strategies on changing spark plugs?

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:12 am
by berettaboi
they really are not too bad. it makes it easier if you remove the ICM-coil packs, just 2bolts + 2 nuts i think... just did spark plugs a month or so ago. mine were in there for 100 kkm i suspect, they put up a bit of a fight coming out on the rear side. you need a couple extensions and the spark plug socket. and just dont go crazy on the rear side, there's lots of wires/connections, and vacuum lines you dont want to really yank on... most are pretty good, but just double check they are all connected good before you put the ICM back on. and a bit of anti-seize on the threads of the spark plugs. also very important, start the spark plugs threading by hand-with the extensions

Re: Tips/strategies on changing spark plugs?

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:59 am
by weba
If you have 3.1 MPFI, two of the rear ones will be incredibly hard to change, even more if you have manual trans and the engine sits more back.

When I bought my car, those two were Really old while the other ones were new, I guess no-one cared to see the trouble to change them.

I recommend a tool set with plenty of 1/4" extensions, I usually release the wire harness to move it away for more room.

Re: Tips/strategies on changing spark plugs?

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 1:01 pm
by Money pit Beretta
Take you time most of all. It took me two hours the first time. A mirror helps too, that middle plug is at a strange angle. Get a universal(swivel) also. Someone else asked about this long ago and I listed how the extensions and the universal should be placed for each plug. As said in another post I can't use the search to find it.

Re: Tips/strategies on changing spark plugs?

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 12:16 am
by felixGTU
The first time I changed the plugs it took me more than 2 hours. Now they are so simple I can do it in less than 30 minutes. I reccommend for the rear ones to reach all plugs from the passanger side. It is very difficult to get the back plugs from the driver side. I to removed some of the wires that are on the back. For example I unplug o2 sensor cable. Everybody here has good points that will help.

Re: Tips/strategies on changing spark plugs?

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:02 am
by 3X00-Modified
berettaboi wrote:they really are not too bad. it makes it easier if you remove the ICM-coil packs, just 2bolts + 2 nuts i think...
Best advice on a 3100 engine setup. Removal of that and a strut bar if you have one installed makes getting to the rear plugs much easier.

Re: Tips/strategies on changing spark plugs?

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 1:59 pm
by Money pit Beretta
Oh yeah I frogot that Mike has a 3100. To me it was easy vs 3.1/2.8, that could be just because I did it many times on the 3.1L. Oh and Mike don't forget to take out the rubber plug holder in the socket when putting the plug in(if your socket has one). I can't overstate this...anti-seize on the treads!

Re: Tips/strategies on changing spark plugs?

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 10:19 pm
by 96B-Mike
thanks alot guys...ill let you know how it goes

Re: Tips/strategies on changing spark plugs?

Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2012 8:05 pm
by pghturbo88
Blow compressed air around each plug to get rid of dirt and debris before removal.
Use anti-seize on new plug threads.
A 12" piece of rubber fuel line works wonders as an insertion/starter tool (learned that trick many years ago watching the old TNN "Shadetree Mechanic" show).

Re: Tips/strategies on changing spark plugs?

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:58 am
by berettaboi
that was a great show... i saw the two guys are (or were a couple years ago) doing a similar show

Re: Tips/strategies on changing spark plugs?

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:16 pm
by 96B-Mike
the new sparkplugs and wires are in!..and yeah i took about 2 hours...what a pain!

Re: Tips/strategies on changing spark plugs?

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:26 pm
by Money pit Beretta
Thanks for the update. How's it running?

Re: Tips/strategies on changing spark plugs?

Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:18 pm
by 96B-Mike
it runs alot stronger, the start up is real strong..there is a noise that is bothering the F out of me..it seems to only make the noise when the car is cold and you start it up..it sounds like a hard metal piece banging on the bottom of my floor board (near the pedals) when i prop the hood, its coming from the right side (near the tranny)

Re: Tips/strategies on changing spark plugs?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:00 pm
by Money pit Beretta
Ok now does it get faster if you rev the engine?
Man I sure hope all the plugs are in right. You did back them until plug dropped and then started to tighten right? Forgot to put that one in the tips, but I thought you knew that.

Re: Tips/strategies on changing spark plugs?

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:08 pm
by 96B-Mike
oh, no.. it happened before i changed the plugs and its still doing it obviously..the noise goes away when the car warms up but it can take a while at times and it does it when im at stop lights as well