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Hi all,

Vehicle 1996 Chevrolet Beretta 3100 SFI v6 OBD-2 Audo Trans

So I finally figured out how to make and run an HHO generator at low electrical requirements with high HHO output...
I am still designing the HHO apparatus, the bubbler to help remove exes water vapors, flashback arrestor blow off valves, etc...

But my problem is the ECM, I have a 1997 Montecarlo ECM but no tuner...

The reason its a problem is the HHO gas being injected into the intake to improve fuel economy by about 35% will cause less emissions.
The ECM will read the O2 sensors and decide to increase fuel to reach its per-programmed balance...

I found this HHO module to tell the ECM when HHO is being run, what do you think?
(This is only a temporary solution until I can install the Programmable ECM...)
http://www.hydrogen-generators-usa.com/hho-chip.html

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Any suggestions on this are appreciated, its something I really want to build and try out, gasoline is to expensive and I only get 200 MPG in the city...
if I can get about 350-400 MPG in city, that would be better...

Any suggestions, comments, etc... are welcome here as I am still looking at every aspect of this HHO setup!
I cant wait for the day to start trial testing this! as of now I have my parts list and some specs worked out already!

I will be injecting the HHO into the vehicle intake between the throttle body and the air filter.

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Also, I'm not going to be trying to replace the fuel system with HHO, although I'd like to, I will be using it to increase gas mileage.
Eventually after I refine the process enough and test for a while I will see if I can make the engine run on HHO alone, but that will take testing if voltages currents, loads, and also how much LPM of HHO is required to run the engine.
But that's in the future...

PS: Even if it ends up not working it is still something I like to try, and trial test myself, because then I can say if it worked or not and have proof!
I will keep this thread bookmarked and over time, I can post if it eventually worked, idk yet...

If it does work (I have a feeling it will because the math adds up on paper), I can post what I did and such if anyone else wants to try it out too!
I can try to post photos with it at the time, but right now I still do not understand how to upload a photo to the thread, it never seems to work for me...lol

If you are pretty serious about it, look into megasquirt. Diyautotune.com

It can do everything you need and more.

i have experimented with this stuff and built a home made unit but it draws too much amperage and i need to mess around with it, havent even looked at it since last fall.

I would be interested in checking out your system once you get it going

@Barry Thanks for the suggestion, I'll look into it.

@beretta That is great to hear someone else experimented with this stuff before me! lol

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I actually came across how Stanley Meyers had his car working, and realized that it was not his work, it was the continued work of Pernich or whatever the guys name was...
I found out I can hack an alternator to do the job of making the frequency modulation output...
And that is what will break the water into HHO (Browns Gas)...
And once I figure out how to make the alternator have the 12 volts AC at little to no current, I can begin hacking one.

This is what I figured out so far: (Alternator)
I have an alternator that had half of its bridge (regulator circuit or whatever its called) go bad that has been sitting around.
I will use the three signals direct and I will jumper 2 wires to make the alternator think its connected to a full battery, so I can have minimal current and 12 volts AC.
Then I will take a voltage multiplier without a transformer(not a transformer as its magnetic field will slow down the alternators frequency and possibly smooth it out), then I will have about 24-26 volts and very low current.

What I still can not seem to figure out: (Alternator)
How to amplify the alternators signal, as well as the other resonant signals within it...

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This above should work, others tried a similar apparatus, they had frequency but without an alternator doing it, and a different person yet, had an alternator but used the high current from it...

Now with the frequency method I am trying, the HHO should be pouring off the plates I will have like water from a water fall...
But, once the free electrons build up within the water in the generator, it will create a kind of force field that will cause the HHO to stop being produced...
(If that makes no sence, it kind of takes the generator and turns it into a capacitor that is fully charged)
I still have not yet figured out how to drain the free electrons from the water without shorting out the process in some way, but I do not yet know because I still have yet to build the system, I'm trying to make it all work out on paper first...

Ideally the free electrons in the fluid can be taken and put back into the source and used to make more HHO gas, but that also is yet another problem I have to figure out when I get there, first I will try to drain the free electrons from the water without replacing with fresh water, but that will be once I build it...

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My ultimate goal is to have the worlds first water powered chevrolet beretts! YAY ^_^
Once it works, I will eventually post a "How to convert your Beretta to run on water" thread, and when I get there, I hope it gets a sticky...
Maybe at beretta fest I can show it off once I make a refined setup!
But that will be a few years down the road as long as the world does not end in december...lol

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I do have a legit question about the beretta if I try this process....
How would I go about disabling the fuel injector and fuel pump and still get the ECM to run the engine if the proper amounts of hydrogen was injected into the intake?
I'm assuming I can just turn off the fuel pump and injectors at the fuse terminal...?
The ECM should still create spark if it reads the engine is turning over...?
What about the knock sensor? It should still read that and adjust the spark...?

96 Beretta with 3100 v6 is what I want to ultimately attach this thing to...
I will first test this process on my 1990 Beretta INDY (3.1L v6), because the car was totaled by a semi and the engine still runs just fine, so I do not know if there will be differences between the OBD-1 and OBD-2 with this system...

I wanted to add, today when I first posted I was only intending and expecting enough HHO to improve gas mileage, but once I found what I did today, I am convinced it can run the engine without gasoline!

(I'm one of those people that are extremely skeptical, and even now I still think it will fail, even though Stanley Meyer did this with his car and ran if solely off this process of breaking apart water, but I will try this anyways because I want to prove myself wrong, and because many people think its not possible, I want to prove them wrong too!

PS: will a 1990 Beretta INDY gas tank fit up under a 1996 Beretta...?
If this is fail safe, I will want to use that plastic tank, I will make several indepedant units that will fit through the hole on top of it and can be attached inside the tank, and the old gas tank will then be used to hold water, and because it is plastic, it will not rust!

One problem though, water freezes in the winter... O_O crud, I just realized this...

Stanley Meyer had a low power way to warm the water, and I honsetly do not have a clue about it...lol