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Quote (ErichZ26 @ Dec. 23 2004,19:03)bad shift cable, bad shift plate, faulty flywheel, and  2 bad used bearings!!! ÂÂÂ
just a bunch a crap!
You said clean the shift plate, I did. Cigarette mars dont come out. Wouldnt be an issue till I saw the bill with you asking 20. I dont know anything about cars remember, so the rest of the things like the cable were diagnosed by Geoff and or Chazz. So if you think thats crap it wasnt even my call.
just a bunch a crap!
You said clean the shift plate, I did. Cigarette mars dont come out. Wouldnt be an issue till I saw the bill with you asking 20. I dont know anything about cars remember, so the rest of the things like the cable were diagnosed by Geoff and or Chazz. So if you think thats crap it wasnt even my call.
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Quote (ErichZ26 @ Dec. 23 2004,18:56)Jamie, you were looking for an arguement tonight.  I was not expectiing it now, but since you brought it up.
I also feel this transmission swap was 3rd strike with me.  My butt is still burning, its all about Jamie and what we can do for him.
Of course I was looking for an arguement when I am told last night that you were talking about this to strangers at Bfest and who ever else. Then it starts pouring onto the board in posts that have nothing to do with cars.
Dork there is no third strike with you. We had one other arrangement and that was with seats. You felt robbed, i slept in car parts which wasnt as nice as my copuch for you at school. Within 2 days of yo putting in the passenger seat the threads pulled up and I had to drill through the floor. I should have known better after that transaction not to call on you again. So if I have strikes with you that makes 2, not 3.
Its not all about me, its about how you can ring every penny out of someone you can.
I also feel this transmission swap was 3rd strike with me.  My butt is still burning, its all about Jamie and what we can do for him.
Of course I was looking for an arguement when I am told last night that you were talking about this to strangers at Bfest and who ever else. Then it starts pouring onto the board in posts that have nothing to do with cars.
Dork there is no third strike with you. We had one other arrangement and that was with seats. You felt robbed, i slept in car parts which wasnt as nice as my copuch for you at school. Within 2 days of yo putting in the passenger seat the threads pulled up and I had to drill through the floor. I should have known better after that transaction not to call on you again. So if I have strikes with you that makes 2, not 3.
Its not all about me, its about how you can ring every penny out of someone you can.
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Quote (spacecadetz26 @ Dec. 23 2004,18:53)Here it is again, and also if your car later needed parts like a mount, or shifter cable or axle. I would not have charged you for these parts. You also forgot about the used clutch hydraulics, that was my fault too.
I never blamed the hydraulics on you. Just as long as you didnt make it a fault of mine, that was bad luck. I bought a new part that came used. Even GMPD was baffled and rectified the situation.
I still dont see how you could have blamed having two L side strust on me when the boxes were marked L and R. You assembled both so obviously it wasnt the most easy thing to spot
I never blamed the hydraulics on you. Just as long as you didnt make it a fault of mine, that was bad luck. I bought a new part that came used. Even GMPD was baffled and rectified the situation.
I still dont see how you could have blamed having two L side strust on me when the boxes were marked L and R. You assembled both so obviously it wasnt the most easy thing to spot
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I will be back to dispute what ever else is said. But now we are going to celebrate the holiday and I am going to pay attention to her. Atleast this is heading back to semi calm less flame like discussion. Later!
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I am not blaming you for the struts, but you need to take responsibility, as I would have in order to make things work.
If i had ordered them it would have been my problem and my responsibility to get it corrected. The transmission being done through kalamazoo was part of my responsibility to make sure it was done. You are making it my responsibility to get the mount correct as some other items like the shifter. The axles which were not my responsibility, the struts which were also not my responsibility put this project in jeopardy. Axle seals and other problems would have been addressed because they were my responsibility.
We let you make the call on the project and went home as some problems really outshined others that morning. You can say crap now, but most of this was unforseen at the time and work was stopped over issues that were your responsibility.
If i had ordered them it would have been my problem and my responsibility to get it corrected. The transmission being done through kalamazoo was part of my responsibility to make sure it was done. You are making it my responsibility to get the mount correct as some other items like the shifter. The axles which were not my responsibility, the struts which were also not my responsibility put this project in jeopardy. Axle seals and other problems would have been addressed because they were my responsibility.
We let you make the call on the project and went home as some problems really outshined others that morning. You can say crap now, but most of this was unforseen at the time and work was stopped over issues that were your responsibility.
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Quote (Ribz80 @ Dec. 23 2004,20:06)Quote (ErichZ26 @ Dec. 23 2004,19:03)bad shift cable, bad shift plate, faulty flywheel, and  2 bad used bearings!!! ÂÂÂ
just a bunch a crap!
You said clean the shift plate, I did.  Cigarette mars dont come out.  Wouldnt be an issue till I saw the bill with you asking 20.  I dont know anything about cars remember, so the rest of the things like the cable were diagnosed by Geoff and or Chazz.  So if you think thats crap it wasnt even my call.
like i said in my first post. the shift plate and shifter would have been replaced. It wasnt a do or die part, I wasnt worried about it. but you made it seem a priority. my priorities were getting the holes drilled and the clutch and brake pedal assemblyes installed. I would have replaced anything that needed to be fixed. like the ignition, you know #### happens you just have to deal with it.... I will stick to my word 100% when it comes to something I am working on. the project is never done until everything works. I wouldnt leave it with something broken or not in the condition I stated and say it was "done"
just a bunch a crap!
You said clean the shift plate, I did.  Cigarette mars dont come out.  Wouldnt be an issue till I saw the bill with you asking 20.  I dont know anything about cars remember, so the rest of the things like the cable were diagnosed by Geoff and or Chazz.  So if you think thats crap it wasnt even my call.
like i said in my first post. the shift plate and shifter would have been replaced. It wasnt a do or die part, I wasnt worried about it. but you made it seem a priority. my priorities were getting the holes drilled and the clutch and brake pedal assemblyes installed. I would have replaced anything that needed to be fixed. like the ignition, you know #### happens you just have to deal with it.... I will stick to my word 100% when it comes to something I am working on. the project is never done until everything works. I wouldnt leave it with something broken or not in the condition I stated and say it was "done"
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I am also curious, what did this end up costing you in terms of money? time? friends?
Then look at my gains from this....then you come out 10 months later throwing fists.
I kept this off Beretta.net for a while, even though i am blantly pissed about it. It cost me money, time, and friends on this, to bail you out of a situation.
Then look at my gains from this....then you come out 10 months later throwing fists.
I kept this off Beretta.net for a while, even though i am blantly pissed about it. It cost me money, time, and friends on this, to bail you out of a situation.
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Quote (ErichZ26 @ Dec. 23 2004,17:21)Thank god my GTZ is soo slow, those near bald ### tires you sold me fit well.  Of course i could do Ribz Racing and only race when its cold out, then talk about 60ft's.  Did you see my "half assed" Z26's 60ft?
tires? talking about tires? that J sold you?
wait he sold me rims and tires EMACULIT CONDITION!
ive never seen better tires that were used and i even tracked down early in the morning to meet up with J
like i said in my first post here in this thread ive know J for a good three years now and #### must have hit the fan cause i talk to him every damn day
he is a great person to hang out with and ive also bought other things from him
looks like J might have been in the wrong for trusting you 2 to hilp him out from one beretta owner to the next
i myself would havent even charged him
are you ASE certified? i dont think so I AM!!!
i never charge people to work on cars i mean FELLOW CAR FRIENDS!
THATS bull parts are parts,get recets dont make money and whine about not being able to pay for stupid things like a HOTEL this is complete and utter BS how you could trat him like this
LIKE SHIZIT!!
my 2 cents and i dont care what yall say im with J on this deal the whole way
tires? talking about tires? that J sold you?
wait he sold me rims and tires EMACULIT CONDITION!
ive never seen better tires that were used and i even tracked down early in the morning to meet up with J
like i said in my first post here in this thread ive know J for a good three years now and #### must have hit the fan cause i talk to him every damn day
he is a great person to hang out with and ive also bought other things from him
looks like J might have been in the wrong for trusting you 2 to hilp him out from one beretta owner to the next
i myself would havent even charged him
are you ASE certified? i dont think so I AM!!!
i never charge people to work on cars i mean FELLOW CAR FRIENDS!
THATS bull parts are parts,get recets dont make money and whine about not being able to pay for stupid things like a HOTEL this is complete and utter BS how you could trat him like this
LIKE SHIZIT!!
my 2 cents and i dont care what yall say im with J on this deal the whole way
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Quote (ErichZ26 @ Dec. 23 2004,21:03)bad shift cable, bad shift plate, faulty flywheel, and  2 bad used bearings!!! ÂÂÂ
just a bunch a crap!
The shift cable was bad; the arm that attaches to the linkage on the transmission was bent, and the cable wouldn't slide freely (this was the 1st-2nd, 3rd-4th, 5th-REV cable).
The wheel bearings went bad because the axles were not put back into them when the car was set down on the wheels. Because of this, the weight of the car separated the bearings, causing them to be bad. The axles should've been put into the bearings to help support the weight of the car and to prevent the bearings from separating.
The flywheel was scuffed up, it should've been resurfaced. It would have caused premature clutch wear if it hadn't been resurfaced or replaced.
just a bunch a crap!
The shift cable was bad; the arm that attaches to the linkage on the transmission was bent, and the cable wouldn't slide freely (this was the 1st-2nd, 3rd-4th, 5th-REV cable).
The wheel bearings went bad because the axles were not put back into them when the car was set down on the wheels. Because of this, the weight of the car separated the bearings, causing them to be bad. The axles should've been put into the bearings to help support the weight of the car and to prevent the bearings from separating.
The flywheel was scuffed up, it should've been resurfaced. It would have caused premature clutch wear if it hadn't been resurfaced or replaced.
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the flywheel wasnt my responsiblity.  If i was responsible for all the parts like Choate said, this wouldnt have happened, i did my part by providing a core.
and too bad you can see lincolns head on the penny, but "like new or as new with 7k miles" doesnt count in this case, I have witnesses that can account for the condition of the tires.
and too bad you can see lincolns head on the penny, but "like new or as new with 7k miles" doesnt count in this case, I have witnesses that can account for the condition of the tires.
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Quote (Jdawg4201 @ Dec. 23 2004,22:54)Quote (ErichZ26 @ Dec. 23 2004,17:21)Thank god my GTZ is soo slow, those near bald ### tires you sold me fit well.  Of course i could do Ribz Racing and only race when its cold out, then talk about 60ft's.  Did you see my "half assed" Z26's 60ft?
tires? talking about tires? that J sold you?
wait he sold me rims and tires EMACULIT CONDITION!
ive never seen better tires that were used and i even tracked down early in the morning to meet up with J
like i said in my first post here in this thread ive know J for a good three years now and #### must have hit the fan cause i talk to him every damn day
he is a great person to hang out with and ive also bought other things from him
looks like J might have been in the wrong for trusting you 2 to hilp him out from one beretta owner to the next
i myself would havent even charged him
are you ASE certified? i dont think so I AM!!!
i never charge people to work on cars i mean FELLOW CAR FRIENDS!
THATS bull parts are parts,get recets dont make money and whine about not being able to pay for stupid things like a HOTEL this is complete and utter BS how you could trat him like this
LIKE SHIZIT!!
my 2 cents and i dont care what yall say im with J on this deal the whole way
Its nice to know he has friends like you. You get my tires?
Where were you when he needed you in Detroit? We needed an educated young soul such as yourself.
ASE...whatz dat??
tires? talking about tires? that J sold you?
wait he sold me rims and tires EMACULIT CONDITION!
ive never seen better tires that were used and i even tracked down early in the morning to meet up with J
like i said in my first post here in this thread ive know J for a good three years now and #### must have hit the fan cause i talk to him every damn day
he is a great person to hang out with and ive also bought other things from him
looks like J might have been in the wrong for trusting you 2 to hilp him out from one beretta owner to the next
i myself would havent even charged him
are you ASE certified? i dont think so I AM!!!
i never charge people to work on cars i mean FELLOW CAR FRIENDS!
THATS bull parts are parts,get recets dont make money and whine about not being able to pay for stupid things like a HOTEL this is complete and utter BS how you could trat him like this
LIKE SHIZIT!!
my 2 cents and i dont care what yall say im with J on this deal the whole way
Its nice to know he has friends like you. You get my tires?
Where were you when he needed you in Detroit? We needed an educated young soul such as yourself.
ASE...whatz dat??
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Erich:im sorry i live in CT and J knows i dont go that far with my car fatrhest i go is to MD and thats for racing and also J knew i wasnt gonna be arround when he did the swap i was on 2 week vacation with family in FL
as for steph i dont care for the contition that was your fault for not getting a picture of them first hand
that was the first thing i asked him for when i wanted the tires and rims
this is rediculious
BRING IT ON!
as for steph i dont care for the contition that was your fault for not getting a picture of them first hand
that was the first thing i asked him for when i wanted the tires and rims
this is rediculious
BRING IT ON!
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Quote (Jdawg4201 @ Dec. 24 2004,02:09)Erich:im sorry i live in CT and J knows i dont go that far with my car fatrhest i go is to MD and thats for racing and also J knew i wasnt gonna be arround when he did the swap i was on 2 week vacation with family in FL
as for steph i dont care for the contition that was your fault for not getting a picture of them first hand
that was the first thing i asked him for when i wanted the tires and rims
this is rediculious
BRING IT ON!
for knowing ribz's history i should have gotten pictures, but since he is such an accredited beretta.net member I shouldn't have needed pictures. I can take full account on things I sell without needing pictures or misrepresting the item. and know that the person i sell to will be getting exactly what I advertised. I was expecting to get like new tires with over 50% tread left which is what he advertised. These tires have less than 3k usable miles left on them and 5/32nd tread. They better be some good $300 burn outs. Wheels are old junk. I wouldnt use them on my own car by fear of them breaking at the sight of the first pot hole.
I mean.. Did you even read anything that was posted? it seems as though you just skimmed quickly and missed the whole 3 pages.
as for steph i dont care for the contition that was your fault for not getting a picture of them first hand
that was the first thing i asked him for when i wanted the tires and rims
this is rediculious
BRING IT ON!
for knowing ribz's history i should have gotten pictures, but since he is such an accredited beretta.net member I shouldn't have needed pictures. I can take full account on things I sell without needing pictures or misrepresting the item. and know that the person i sell to will be getting exactly what I advertised. I was expecting to get like new tires with over 50% tread left which is what he advertised. These tires have less than 3k usable miles left on them and 5/32nd tread. They better be some good $300 burn outs. Wheels are old junk. I wouldnt use them on my own car by fear of them breaking at the sight of the first pot hole.
I mean.. Did you even read anything that was posted? it seems as though you just skimmed quickly and missed the whole 3 pages.
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i didnt miss anything im a very thuough reader
i myself would like to see pics of a this so called worn tires that he used at the track ohh wait ive had my tires on 3 differnet cars in 4 years and only now am i replacing them AND ive raced with them .....what brand are they?
knowing how j is dosent mean anything regardless you are the buyer and its your fault not his for buying the tires without pictures dont put the blame on him steph
i myself would like to see pics of a this so called worn tires that he used at the track ohh wait ive had my tires on 3 differnet cars in 4 years and only now am i replacing them AND ive raced with them .....what brand are they?
knowing how j is dosent mean anything regardless you are the buyer and its your fault not his for buying the tires without pictures dont put the blame on him steph