Popping/cracking noise when turning wheel sometimes...

[Cliff8928]

FE7 might work too though, and are .5" lower than stock IIRC. But they may be even lower since they came mainly on quad4 cars which had less weight...

The INDY, V6 GTZ, and GT with the W26 performance suspension option had FE7 and are all V6s.

[Money pit Beretta]

Dang Cliff, it's like you know everything about these cars. I think there is a problem with the FE7, I have a 95.

[woody90gtz]

You can go with a 95-96 FE3 spring in the back with an Addco bar and I'll bet it would be pretty good.

[Money pit Beretta]

I'm not dead set on FE3 yet, but I could use some part numbers to see if I can get them. Anybody?

[IsaacHayes]

Yeah I'm not sure if the P/N is different for FE7 springs on a quad vs 6cyl car. Anyone confirm?

Just go to a dealer and ask for them. They can look them up.

[Cliff8928]

Also, if I remember right... The rear springs for FE3 and FE7 are the same. So you can do the FE7 setup in the front.

[3X00-Modified]

Yeah they are working, just not as quick reacting as I'd like.... Honestly if there was less weight in the front the inertia and momentum would be reduced and they would probably do a lot better. I bet with a 5spd they are pretty damn good. I have the gas-a-just's in the rear and it's perfect.

My car does not weigh any less than yours and I don't have the same issue... I'm willing to bet there is something wrong with your set.

Mine are also white because I undercoated them and then sprayed them white, if you don't they rust like a bastard... Its my own paint, they didn't come that way.

[IsaacHayes]

WTF the noise is back, and the nut is not loose. God I hate these damn strut mounts. Last time it was the drivers side that failed, but that was after YEARS. Now the passenger side is making BAD noises when turning and hitting bumps is making the noise too when the wheel drops down... AHHHHHHHHHHH

I don't think these strut mounts can handle a stiff spring... Something must just crush with them. Spring doesn't give so the rubber does and then they get all messed up....

[Money pit Beretta]

I did look, but may have missed the brand of your mounts. What are they?

[3X00-Modified]

WTF the noise is back, and the nut is not loose. God I hate these damn strut mounts. Last time it was the drivers side that failed, but that was after YEARS. Now the passenger side is making BAD noises when turning and hitting bumps is making the noise too when the wheel drops down... AHHHHHHHHHHH

I don't think these strut mounts can handle a stiff spring... Something must just crush with them. Spring doesn't give so the rubber does and then they get all messed up....

I'm starting to think you may have a set of blown struts that are rattling around...

I like how you say these mounts cant handle a stiff spring yet there are MANY others running this combo with more miles on it that don't have the same issue, yet your having a strut dampening issue that we are not... kinda points to one thing.

My pink car is quite and thats on stock upper mounts that now have 92k on them with the Eibach's and a set of KYB's

[Barry]

I think 3rd gen cavi's got a better upper strut mount. It will probably work if the spring diameter is the same.

[3X00-Modified]

I wouldn't consider a mount designed for a car that only received a 2.4 as the largest motor, a better mount.

The mounts are made from rubber, there is nothing to clunk... things that go bad are the bearings used in conjunction with the mount, the strut, the strut to mount cup that holds it in place, and the nut/threads on the strut shaft, What else is there to go wrong unless the center completely rots out?

[IsaacHayes]

They are Monroe Strutmate. I'm thinking maybe an OEM strut mount may be of better quality. My OEM's never made noise, but were loose as hell when they were shot...

I need to get a video so you guys can decide if the struts are blown or not... TireRack told me they are sold without warranty since I bought them with Eibachs and the KYBs are not meant for a lowering spring... They even called me before processing my order to make sure that was ok with me...

The problem is the metal big cup that is held down by the strut nut. The nut is loose and does not come down hard enough on the cup... Jack up the car, put a 2x4 under the tire as a lever, pry up, and you'll see the nut raise up and down off of the metal cup... I just don't understand WTF is going on with it... I'm using the original OEM black cups as the 95+ uppper mounts don't come with a metal cup like the older do, and the older doesn't sit deep enough in the rubber and caused problems with the last set... Now this one is being a bitch, but on the other side now................

[3X00-Modified]

These are gas charged, if you have to pry up the shaft to get the nut to come off the cup then there is something wrong... I thought I had an issue once, so I pulled the nut off and blam, the rod fell right down to the base of the strut.... so yeah I had a big issue, it had NO pressure anymore. That was fun to get out of the car after that

My first set of KYB's I didnt buy with my Eibach's so I was able to return them to summit and they broke 1 month after I put them in.

What p/n did you buy for a strut mount? Best Monroe ones I found so far are these, Part# 904912 It has the proper black metal cup below, and you just need your big washer on the top.




Wait, after re-reading I think I know your issue... What PN did you get for upper mounts? Its sounding like your BLACK cup thats below thats supposed to act as a spacer on the shaft, is TOO short or the wrong style... I went through 3 types of mounts till I found the one with the right setup that was the same as stock.

You should be able to take the black cup, and the top big washer put them both on the strut shaft and tighten down the bolt and they should get PRESSED together... If you cant tighten the bolt enough to do that, then the spacer in the black part is too short and will cause a noise. This is where ALL strut upper mount noise comes from, its almost never the rubber unless the top washer is hitting the strut tower because its rotted so bad.

[IsaacHayes]

I'm running the 95-98 monroe's I followed your thread.

Yeah the issue is the black cup that is OEM (these did not come with that part) has play between the nut on the strut shaft... Turn the wheel and the nut/strut shaft moves all around the metal cup...

I don't know the P/N... I may have a box... I hope I do... Or a receipt... I got them for a 95 beretta...

EDIT: Last set of strut mounts (87-94) style I kept tightening the nut, but ran out of threads on the strut shaft... So I started adding washers. It would still pop, tighten more. Got to the point where the metal that strut shaft goes up through below the rubber part, actually TORE out from being compressed and messed with so much... That's what made me go to Eibach and re-do everything...

EDIT2: I'm pretty sure 904912 is the same P/N as I just looked it up on Advance for a 94 and 96 beretta and that's where I got them because they were like 25 each last year..

EDIT3: How do you tighten them Jon? Recently I've taken a wrench, and an adjustable wrench to hold the center shaft, then tightned the nut down with the car in the parking lot until I feel like I'm going to break something, and the black metal upper cup starts twisting the rubber mount......... But it still is loose... WTF