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5 speed cutlass supreme at the junkyard
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 12:49 am
by speedy
i seen a 5 speed cutlass supreme at the junkyard the other day, it was a v6(couldnt get the dam hood open...
) but it had a 5 speed in it, it wasnt the international series, or anything, just a regular looking 2 door cutlass supreme, i did some research and it yeilded little to no results, i wanted to know if this is factory? if so, whats the gear ratio in the transmission and how rare is it?
Re: 5 speed cutlass supreme at the junkyard
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 6:57 am
by heavywoody
W-bodies did come with 5spds, but they are very few and far between. There were those that had the 3.4 TDC engine with the HM-284, which is the more commonly known about 5spd W-bodies.
However, the 3.1/2.8 cars also got the 5spd, it's an HM-282 with the same 3.61 FDR that we got. Only real difference that I can remember is that the jackshaft is a little longer to accomodate the wider body, about 1" longer from what I remember. I think the case was slightly different to where the slave cylinder bolted to the case instead of a bracket coming off the upper trans mount area.
Chazz used a W-body 5spd in his 5spd swap. We had to find a shorter jackshaft to use because his was too long.
I had a 90 Grand Prix STE 3.1 5spd back in college... bought it from a long time Beretta owner/friend of mine.
Re: 5 speed cutlass supreme at the junkyard
Posted: Sat May 14, 2011 10:25 am
by bonecrrusher
Was going to say - I remember chazz having issues getting that w-body trans into his car.
Re: 5 speed cutlass supreme at the junkyard
Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:05 am
by Chazzman
Yeah, the trans mount brackets, slave cylinder, jackshaft and speedo sensor are different then the L-body 5spd. Pain to use for a swap. I also think the gearing is different. 1st and 2nd "feel" closer then or other factory V6 5spd Berettas I've driven.
Re: 5 speed cutlass supreme at the junkyard
Posted: Mon May 16, 2011 10:19 am
by 3X00-Modified
Chazzman wrote:Yeah, the trans mount brackets, slave cylinder, jackshaft and speedo sensor are different then the L-body 5spd. Pain to use for a swap. I also think the gearing is different. 1st and 2nd "feel" closer then or other factory V6 5spd Berettas I've driven.
Here is some info on it...
It's Rumored to have a different ratio... but you can check it yourself to see. If its true yours should be, 13.6 crank turns for every 1 on the axle vs 12.6, and 7.9 crank turns to 1 at the axle for 2nd vs 7.4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Getrag_282_transmission