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Post by **Cliff8928** » Thu May 14, 2015 2:04 am

3X00-Modified wrote:But I would have to have a diode between the output of that timer and the ECU so it doesn't feed voltage backwards to the output pin on the ECU.

Just use the relay's 87 and 87a pins to avoid feedback to the PCM.

Post by **3X00-Modified** » Thu May 14, 2015 5:59 am

My original idea was to run the factory relay with the small timers 1988gtu posted but it sounds like your suggesting to run the pump itself with the timer. I guess that's a possibility but I think I'll try out that relay timer I found and he posted up first since everything will be enclosed. I can just run that inline on the green white wire and it will come on when the ecu wants it and stay running when the ecu removes power.

Post by **3X00-Modified** » Thu May 14, 2015 8:49 am

Ordered that relay today... Pulling the trans tonight to find/fix leak on the torque converter area as well as troubleshoot my TCC not working.

I'll take only those two little issues.

Oh and it passed emissions yesterday...

Slinky · Post by **Slinky** » Thu May 14, 2015 12:12 pm

3X00-Modified wrote:Ordered that relay today... Pulling the trans tonight to find/fix leak on the torque converter area as well as troubleshoot my TCC not working. I'll take only those two little issues.

Oh and it passed emissions yesterday...

Im eager to see how this all works out, my new FPR holds pressure at prime but that may not last forever since i have the same one you do..

Post by **Cliff8928** » Fri May 15, 2015 2:06 am

3X00-Modified wrote:It sounds like your suggesting to run the pump itself with the timer. I guess that's a possibility but I think I'll try out that relay timer I found and he posted up first since everything will be enclosed.

What I was referring to was wiring it like this... PCM fuel pump relay control to pin 87a, ground to pin 87 and output to factory FP relay to pin 30. This way when the relay is energized, you're effectively bypassing the PCM control and grounding the output to the factory fuel pump relay, when it's not energized you're following the original factory circuit.

Post by **3X00-Modified** » Fri May 15, 2015 2:34 pm

Slight setback

Torque converter seal was leaking and the TCC wasn't engaging... Have to evaluate the valve body I chose to use and make sure there isn't something wrong with it. Solenoid checks out fine.

The factory relay in our cars is 12v triggered by the PCM though... I'm going to use that timer relay inline on the trigger wire so it will energize the relay when the ECU energizes it and it will stay on as long as it see's that input but when the ECU shuts it off it will be set to run for 30 sec or so... That way upon prime the pump will click on and stay running for 32 seconds

and after the car is shut off the pump will keep running for 30 seconds.

Post by **3X00-Modified** » Mon May 25, 2015 10:18 pm

So this whole time the tcc was working fine... Worked the same after re assembly which included slipping over 600 rpm when locked... GARBAGE! So I just spent the last 4hrs removing and replacing the converter with a FD9B that I had lying around. Time to ensure that locks up just fine so I can tear into RevMax... Not sure if I'm going to have it fixed and in before Mississippi or if I will just request a refund and find another shop.

Fuel system also converted back to a flow through rail. The deadhead was causing very hard starts and I can only assume it was due to a huge air pocket because the pump running constant while cranking made no difference.

The A/C works

1988GTU · Post by **1988GTU** » Wed May 27, 2015 7:01 pm

that sux to read about the trans setback.

A/C, now that's cool!

Money pit Beretta · Post by **Money pit Beretta** » Wed May 27, 2015 7:22 pm

You have the worst luck with converters!

themixer · Post by **themixer** » Wed May 27, 2015 8:34 pm

i didn't mean to spread transmission issues

Post by **3X00-Modified** » Wed May 27, 2015 9:50 pm

From 2011 till this year I thought I had found the good company to deal with but this set back just makes me wonder.

Money pit Beretta · Post by **Money pit Beretta** » Thu May 28, 2015 7:31 am

So far my converter is doing well. With that said I think it is just because the car is a DD. Sure seems like all brands are made for just that.
Can't remember what brand the guys that make the "Raptor" 4T60/4L60's sell. Bet it's something you have already used.

http://www.importperformancetrans.com/c ... -74-1.html

Did you try those guys?

Post by **3X00-Modified** » Thu May 28, 2015 9:11 am

I feel like I contacted them once before and they said they don't deal in the FWD market... but I can't find any correspondence on that in my email history. The bigger issue at hand is I just spent $225 to get this converter "rebuilt" and $50 of that was to install their new Woven Carbon lockup clutch. So as much as I just want to contact Jeff's (Engineered Performance) torque converter guys he deals with in GA and have them build me a new one, that would then put me out of $225 currently invested in this one. According to RevMax my converter, even though they JUST rebuilt it, carries no warranty BUT If they "find" an issue with it they will repair it free of charge. This is why I had to pay for return shipping. Honestly that just all sounds contradictory if you ask me, It carries no warranty so I have to pay for shipping but if it is bad they will repair it for free... That sounds like a warranty on the work you did so why the F wouldn't you pick up shipping as well?!

Never mind I see why I went with RevMax and not IPT... they want $900-1200 for a converter, they must do FWD since they have 4t's available as performance transmissions. RevMax was only $250 when I bought it in 2011 and it worked fine then!

PACT does the Raptor transmissions but I'm not finding any transverse stuff on their site yet.. Found only the 4t65e-HD converter, Its a 245mm converter for a 258mm application but they integrated an adapter plate into the converter to allow the smaller version to be used on the 3800 engines. Not sure if that converter can be ordered without the spacer/adapter plate and still work in a 60e or not... I believe mine is a 245mm converter. Either way... RevMax has to fix what I paid for first.

whiteretta · Post by **whiteretta** » Thu May 28, 2015 9:49 am

Good luck man... You think they'd cover the shipping since it seems they can't send a properly functioning unit. Even being a custom converter, I'm really surprised there's no documented warranty...

Post by **3X00-Modified** » Thu May 28, 2015 10:02 am

It's in their Returns page so you can't really argue it...

"Any defective item must be returned to RevMax freight prepaid and the unit will be repaired or replaced at the discretion of RevMax. Our limited liability warranty covers the torque converter only. Charges associated with labor to remove and replace the item, downtime, rental cars or any other losses associated with the failure of the item are not covered!"

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