What kind of muffler do you have?
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Re: What kind of muffler do you have?
is there any real hp gain between any of these bad boys is my question lol.
1.hp
2.sound quality
1.hp
2.sound quality
92 Beretta
90 GTZ
96 Z26
09 Subawoo Impreza
85 S10 4x4
97 Grand Am (R.I.P.)
03 Cavalier(sold)
90 GT(R.I.P.)
89 Base(R.I.P.)
90 GTZ
96 Z26
09 Subawoo Impreza
85 S10 4x4
97 Grand Am (R.I.P.)
03 Cavalier(sold)
90 GT(R.I.P.)
89 Base(R.I.P.)
- whiteretta
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Re: What kind of muffler do you have?
Your engine will benefit most from running full 2.25" or 2.5" pipe, including the downpipe, which is very, very restrictive. The muffler is more for sound, so what kind of sound you want is up to you.
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Re: What kind of muffler do you have?
I'm very pleased with the sound of my Borla turbo. Loud yet not annoying.
Re: What kind of muffler do you have?
"Select One" doesn't work well for me -I do have six Berettas currently...
-'89 GTU -Multiple glass-packs, 2x Thrush Turbo mufflers, still very loud (under boost), almost too loud.
-'90 Turbo T-Type -Thrush Welded (think Flowmaster). Awesome sounding car, one of the best notes I've ever owned.
-'90 Yellow Indy -Chrysler 300M OE muffler -sounds and flows better than Beretta OE, but just a tad raspy when cold.
-'90 Teal Indy -Dual Flowmasters are set aside for it (free).
-95 Z-26 3100/3400 -OE Z-26. Sounds really good to me, distinctive 60-degree sound!
-'95 Z-26 3.4 DOHC -Single 3-inch Flowmaster. Haven't had the car running yet though.
The 2.5-inch Thrush Welded muffler in the '90 T-Type is good quality, and was a really good price from AutoZone, something like $30 back about seven years ago. Sadly, this same muffler on my Turbo Z-24 (2.4 'Twin Cam') sounds very ricey, very raspy, and much louder. The compression on the Z-24 is in the high 9s (last version of the Twin Cam engines with the higher CR), but the Turbo T's 3.4 hybrid V-6 is virtually 10:1 (yes, on a turbo car), so even with the two extra cylinders, I would expect it to be louder than the Z-24, but it isn't. Even adding a resonator to the Z-24's four-banger didn't help much, and it is one of the worst-sounding cars I own (although a Honda-guy might like it). I'm not in love with Flowmasters, but the mufflers are solid, long-lasting, perform well, and tend to find their way to me easily. Heck, two of my old Plymouths have two each of them underneath. My Flowmaster-equipped '89 Camaro definitely sounds meaner than my Magnaflow-equipped '88 Camaro, but it also has headers and 50 cubic-inches extra, so it still isn't apples-to-apples comparison.
Bottom line, I like the sound of the Thrush/Flowmaster type mufflers well enough that I wouldn't pay much more for another brand. And aside from my fortune in getting over half a dozen Flowmasters for almost nothing, I wouldn't pay much more for them than for the Thrush brand version.
-'89 GTU -Multiple glass-packs, 2x Thrush Turbo mufflers, still very loud (under boost), almost too loud.
-'90 Turbo T-Type -Thrush Welded (think Flowmaster). Awesome sounding car, one of the best notes I've ever owned.
-'90 Yellow Indy -Chrysler 300M OE muffler -sounds and flows better than Beretta OE, but just a tad raspy when cold.
-'90 Teal Indy -Dual Flowmasters are set aside for it (free).
-95 Z-26 3100/3400 -OE Z-26. Sounds really good to me, distinctive 60-degree sound!
-'95 Z-26 3.4 DOHC -Single 3-inch Flowmaster. Haven't had the car running yet though.
The 2.5-inch Thrush Welded muffler in the '90 T-Type is good quality, and was a really good price from AutoZone, something like $30 back about seven years ago. Sadly, this same muffler on my Turbo Z-24 (2.4 'Twin Cam') sounds very ricey, very raspy, and much louder. The compression on the Z-24 is in the high 9s (last version of the Twin Cam engines with the higher CR), but the Turbo T's 3.4 hybrid V-6 is virtually 10:1 (yes, on a turbo car), so even with the two extra cylinders, I would expect it to be louder than the Z-24, but it isn't. Even adding a resonator to the Z-24's four-banger didn't help much, and it is one of the worst-sounding cars I own (although a Honda-guy might like it). I'm not in love with Flowmasters, but the mufflers are solid, long-lasting, perform well, and tend to find their way to me easily. Heck, two of my old Plymouths have two each of them underneath. My Flowmaster-equipped '89 Camaro definitely sounds meaner than my Magnaflow-equipped '88 Camaro, but it also has headers and 50 cubic-inches extra, so it still isn't apples-to-apples comparison.
Bottom line, I like the sound of the Thrush/Flowmaster type mufflers well enough that I wouldn't pay much more for another brand. And aside from my fortune in getting over half a dozen Flowmasters for almost nothing, I wouldn't pay much more for them than for the Thrush brand version.
1989 SuperCharged 3800 Srs-II (First)Six-Speed GTU
1990 Turbo 3.4 5-Speed T-Type
1990 4.0L 4-Cam 32-Valve V-8 5-Speed Indy GTi (Project)
1990 Stock(!) 3.1 MPFI Auto Indy
1995 LA1/L82 4T60E Z-26
1995 3.4 DOHC Turbo 5-Speed Z-26
1990 Turbo 3.4 5-Speed T-Type
1990 4.0L 4-Cam 32-Valve V-8 5-Speed Indy GTi (Project)
1990 Stock(!) 3.1 MPFI Auto Indy
1995 LA1/L82 4T60E Z-26
1995 3.4 DOHC Turbo 5-Speed Z-26
Re: What kind of muffler do you have?
I recently had my exhaust redone on my Quad4. I'm running 2 resonators, an Aero Turbine and a Vibrant Ultra Quiet (p/n 1141, and a Magnaflow 4x9 oval muffler (p/n 11256). Sounds decent, although it is a bit loud at high revs.
1993 Quasar Quad4 GTZ - Project WTF
Previous Berettas: 90 GT, 93 Quasar GTZ, 93 Garnet GTZ, 93 Aqua GT
Previous Berettas: 90 GT, 93 Quasar GTZ, 93 Garnet GTZ, 93 Aqua GT
Re: What kind of muffler do you have?
These days I'm more partial towards quieter exhaust. I'm considering getting a 96 Beretta base muffler and putting it on my 90 gtz because it works very well for silencing the 3100 SFI engine, its exhaust makes no noise. I don't think airflow will be an issue at all.
Re: What kind of muffler do you have?
V-6s are easier to silence than four-bangers. As I mentioned, I used the EXACT same muffler on a turbo Twin-Cam (Successor to the Quad) as on my turbo 3.4 hybrid, and the Twin Cam is waaay louder. But, if you are interested, I would love to sell the complete exhaust from my 95 Z-26 (except for the outlet tip). Pipe, muffler, resonator, cat. One cut where it arches over the rear "axle" beam, otherwise perfect. It is all in great shape, 105k miles. Even the bolts weren't rusted on it.GT_Indy wrote:These days I'm more partial towards quieter exhaust. I'm considering getting a 96 Beretta base muffler and putting it on my 90 gtz because it works very well for silencing the 3100 SFI engine, its exhaust makes no noise. I don't think airflow will be an issue at all.
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1989 SuperCharged 3800 Srs-II (First)Six-Speed GTU
1990 Turbo 3.4 5-Speed T-Type
1990 4.0L 4-Cam 32-Valve V-8 5-Speed Indy GTi (Project)
1990 Stock(!) 3.1 MPFI Auto Indy
1995 LA1/L82 4T60E Z-26
1995 3.4 DOHC Turbo 5-Speed Z-26
1990 Turbo 3.4 5-Speed T-Type
1990 4.0L 4-Cam 32-Valve V-8 5-Speed Indy GTi (Project)
1990 Stock(!) 3.1 MPFI Auto Indy
1995 LA1/L82 4T60E Z-26
1995 3.4 DOHC Turbo 5-Speed Z-26
Re: What kind of muffler do you have?
I believe that its louder. lol. I had a hard time silencing my olds 455 cadillac, I have 2 massive mufflers on that car and its still noisy. lol.Rettax3 wrote:V-6s are easier to silence than four-bangers. As I mentioned, I used the EXACT same muffler on a turbo Twin-Cam (Successor to the Quad) as on my turbo 3.4 hybrid, and the Twin Cam is waaay louder. But, if you are interested, I would love to sell the complete exhaust from my 95 Z-26 (except for the outlet tip). Pipe, muffler, resonator, cat. One cut where it arches over the rear "axle" beam, otherwise perfect. It is all in great shape, 105k miles. Even the bolts weren't rusted on it.GT_Indy wrote:These days I'm more partial towards quieter exhaust. I'm considering getting a 96 Beretta base muffler and putting it on my 90 gtz because it works very well for silencing the 3100 SFI engine, its exhaust makes no noise. I don't think airflow will be an issue at all.
I'm ok for now, the GTZ doesn't get driven to much so it isn't the end of the world for me. lol.
It has a new muffler on it already, but the next time it needs change I'll look into something quieter.
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Have you considered a Dynomax Super Turbo muffler? Good tone on a V6, but not very loud either.GT_Indy wrote:These days I'm more partial towards quieter exhaust. I'm considering getting a 96 Beretta base muffler and putting it on my 90 gtz because it works very well for silencing the 3100 SFI engine, its exhaust makes no noise. I don't think airflow will be an issue at all.
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Nope. But I will look into it now for the gtz. The z26 is not getting any changes because I'm selling it now. I still want to reduce the amount of cars I have and I don't want any more automatics.whiteretta wrote:Have you considered a Dynomax Super Turbo muffler? Good tone on a V6, but not very loud either.GT_Indy wrote:These days I'm more partial towards quieter exhaust. I'm considering getting a 96 Beretta base muffler and putting it on my 90 gtz because it works very well for silencing the 3100 SFI engine, its exhaust makes no noise. I don't think airflow will be an issue at all.
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Re: What kind of muffler do you have?
I had a Super Turbo on my quad and hated it. But that had no cat either.
I like my Dynomax VT on the 3400. Mostly quiet until you hammer on it and the valve opens. But the valve lets out tiny little farts at idle. Probably from me modifying it when it rusted to be sort of half fiberglass, half chambered. I have this idea now to make my own little spintech muffler right after the Dynomax. Maybe chop up those sound waves a little bit.
I like my Dynomax VT on the 3400. Mostly quiet until you hammer on it and the valve opens. But the valve lets out tiny little farts at idle. Probably from me modifying it when it rusted to be sort of half fiberglass, half chambered. I have this idea now to make my own little spintech muffler right after the Dynomax. Maybe chop up those sound waves a little bit.
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96 "T56" LS/6spd/8.8 RWD swap - 13.45@104.7 lol
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96 "T56" LS/6spd/8.8 RWD swap - 13.45@104.7 lol
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Re: What kind of muffler do you have?
Nice.woody90gtz wrote:I had a Super Turbo on my quad and hated it. But that had no cat either.
I like my Dynomax VT on the 3400. Mostly quiet until you hammer on it and the valve opens. But the valve lets out tiny little farts at idle. Probably from me modifying it when it rusted to be sort of half fiberglass, half chambered. I have this idea now to make my own little spintech muffler right after the Dynomax. Maybe chop up those sound waves a little bit.
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Re: What kind of muffler do you have?
Here are the newest videos of my setup. Leaky PaceSetters, 2.5" pipe straight back to a Hooker Aerochamber, with Hooker resonated tips.
https://youtu.be/NGDG3WvjraE
https://youtu.be/xlRNp0C20Fw
https://youtu.be/jMThMAKBrNM
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https://youtu.be/NGDG3WvjraE
https://youtu.be/xlRNp0C20Fw
https://youtu.be/jMThMAKBrNM
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