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It idles fine, the uncertainty comes from not being to familiar with Q4's. There is a huge oil leak! As for driving it till it dies, thats just crazy talk there, I'd rebuild it if anything. I'm trustin' SGR on this. Also the engine does not appear to have been rebuilt. If it was, the person spent all that money for a rebuild, and didn't maintain it? I don't think so.[
speedy wrote:you sure its the engine? you sound uncertain about this, does it do it when its just sitting there idling? could be a number of things, why do people jump right to the worst of idea's, as far as the headgasket, unless you know exactly what your doing, your looking at spending minimal of $500 to get that done, probably upwards of $1,000, so if it was me, i would just run it untill it goes, whats to say the engine wasnt rebuilt 20,000 miles ago?
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You have your own shop right? What would be an estimate on this kind of job? TC job and head gaskets.
SuzukiGhostRider wrote:Passenger side and a grinding noise combined with a massive oil leak. Yup, I'd say TC cover is leaking and it's in need of a TC chain job. '90-'92's have an "oil slinger" inside the timing cover. I don't think the '94's have this. But still.

At 145k, it's WAY overdue for a chain, guides, and a headgasket job.

As to the price. No way in hell. From your description, imho, clean body or not, $1500 would be pushing it.
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The A/C has been removed. Don't know exactly how it was done, anyone have any idea?
SummitBalt08 wrote:If you have a "grinding" noise while its running, that could be the AC compressor bearing being bad making that noise. Car looks good! Mine does too, I hope you have better luck getting it running straight than i do.
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I have the money to put in this, so whatever it needs will get done, like I said, it needs TLC, and we are goin' to give it to her.
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Also any Ideas on why the exaust does not fit properly? See engine/trans/suspension info on page 1.
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exhaust was probably modified or replaced and is either a few inches to long or to short and thus, it isnt fitting properly, suspension is fe3 and sucks, around here, its anywhere from $500- $1000 for a head gasket job done properly, with having a double overhead cam, and wanting to do the timing chain too, figure on the most expensive, ac was easy to remove, mine has no ac, just take it off, install an ac delete pully, if you want to go all out, rip out the compresser, condensor, cooling lines, ect, thats what i did. the ticking could be a number of things, timing chain, water pump, bearings, lifters, exhaust leak, it could be simple or expensive. quads can be a pita and expensive to get into, the parts are hard to find in decent shape, they arent the most reliable engines in the world for sure, but they are a lot of fun to have and expensive to maintain, if you do buy it, id suggest stocking up on parts such as axles, shift cables, shift cables, and more shift cables, a spare head if you find one, coils, sensors, whatever you can get, grab! lol.

im not trying to discurage you from it at all, they are fun cars, extremely fun cars, but dont expect the reliability of a v6 or a 2.2l... expect the worst.
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I'd charge right around $800 with parts and labor to do a TC and Headgasket job on a Quad. That would include doing things right from me though. Getting the head stress checked and cleaned, new chain, guides, tensioner and gears (if needed on those) and making sure everything was PROPERLY torqued to spec. Not over torqued as a lot of shops seem to do these days. Also, would make sure you were running the correct head casting, crank pulley etc.

Speedy, you're correct on any number of things are POSSIBLE, but honestly, you're just muddling things. His description makes it pretty clear what is going on.
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Once again, thank you very much. I wish I lived out there so you could work on this car. I really need to find someone around my area who knows what they are doing. The mechanic who looked it over, and whose shop it sits at, admits he really dosen't know anything about quad 4's. He drove it, and said, in his opinion its a really good car, this was after we all looked it over. He was really only concerned about the exaust, and rear shocks for inspection. I just don't know if I'd feel comfortable driving it as it is, even with new exaust and shocks, as it is about 160 mi. back home. I'm worried I may cause more damage to the engine than already has been done. The trip is, I'd say 98% highway, but there are a few zones where road work causes stoping. Also there are quite a few pretty serious highway hill climbs.
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either take a trailer and truck for back up, or dont buy it, if you dont feel comfortable driving it that far, id walk away.....
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I think you just want it. I may just end up doing that tho, by that i mean walking away. I've gotta see what kind of deal I can work out. If I can get it for a decent price, I'll be getting it. I will say that the dealer was reluctant to even send it to the shop to get it inspected, and when I threw a $1500-1800 range at him, he didn't seem to like it very much. I really don't know, we'll see what happens when they contact me next week.
speedy wrote:either take a trailer and truck for back up, or dont buy it, if you dont feel comfortable driving it that far, id walk away.....
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i wouldnt pay more then $1,500 for it, dont like it too bad, if someone buys it and it has them problems, it will just pop up on craigslist for less. i found my car, its a tad bit far but im certain i wont be buying this one, lol.
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I've driven bigger pieces of crap on longer trips. Nut up a bit. The car will make it 168 miles.

On the noise, my guess is water pump. I bet the bearing is going out and the pump gear is wearing a nice shiny spot on the inside of the timing cover. A water pump and new chain and guides is an easy job to do, but is about 50% of the job of doing a headgasket - so why not just go all the way while you're there.

You should get this car, there aren't many of them and I highly doubt you'll ever see one in nicer shape. Don't let sideline objectors sway your decision making process.
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KFLO 93 GT wrote:I've driven bigger pieces of crap on longer trips. Nut up a bit. The car will make it 168 miles.

On the noise, my guess is water pump. I bet the bearing is going out and the pump gear is wearing a nice shiny spot on the inside of the timing cover. A water pump and new chain and guides is an easy job to do, but is about 50% of the job of doing a headgasket - so why not just go all the way while you're there.

You should get this car, there aren't many of them and I highly doubt you'll ever see one in nicer shape. Don't let sideline objectors sway your decision making process.

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i called and offered $1,500 cash, and he said someone was on the other line making a deposit for the $2,495. either they know NOTHING about quads, or theyre a beretta nut! lol. or the dealer was just full of crap. hahaha.
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I belive they are full of crap, at least I hope so. Do you remember who you talked to? If I drove all the way there, and they are gonna sell it with out tellin' me thats pretty messed up. I was under the impression, they were gonna find out how much the exaust, and rear shocks was gonna cost em', and then call me and tell me. Maybe they said screw them, we don't wanna spend money to make money, I don't know. I'm gonna call tomorrow.
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