Roberts 89GT Engine build.
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Looks like eric is bringing his A game.lol
I think only two of them are really from jersey.
I know a few are from upstate new york.
But that was a good one.=)
I think only two of them are really from jersey.
I know a few are from upstate new york.
But that was a good one.=)
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Re: Roberts 89GT Engine build.
Updates...
Issues with ring set, hopefully going to solve that at GM today...
Sealed power sells the ring sets as 1.2mm x 1.5mm x 4mm
The ring set that came out of this engine is 1.2mm x 1.5mm x 3mm... and if you look up older 3.1L engines that's what the ring sizes are listed as... so I don't know if aftermarket pistons for 3.4's are 4mm oil rings and just the GM ones are 3mm, but either way every aftermarket set of rings wont fit these pistons... so hopefully GM has a set that does, otherwise I will have to buy a set of pistons from sealed power to fit these rings.
My issue in photos...
Gold ring is what came out.


And you can see the thinner smaller rings that go with the wavy for the oil ring.

Beyond that I did get some other stuff done...
Crank set in place not torqued waiting for crank scraper, Also cleaned and painted brackets timing cover and oil pan.


Hope you didn't think your motor would get out of this garage without seeing some of my Industrial Gray... LOL!


Looks quite nice against the red though. Test fitting the pan to see.


I also test fitted the TCE set. I need the large chain guide for that so I'll order it today... the thin chain guide is too wide for this chain.


Issues with ring set, hopefully going to solve that at GM today...
Sealed power sells the ring sets as 1.2mm x 1.5mm x 4mm
The ring set that came out of this engine is 1.2mm x 1.5mm x 3mm... and if you look up older 3.1L engines that's what the ring sizes are listed as... so I don't know if aftermarket pistons for 3.4's are 4mm oil rings and just the GM ones are 3mm, but either way every aftermarket set of rings wont fit these pistons... so hopefully GM has a set that does, otherwise I will have to buy a set of pistons from sealed power to fit these rings.
My issue in photos...
Gold ring is what came out.


And you can see the thinner smaller rings that go with the wavy for the oil ring.

Beyond that I did get some other stuff done...
Crank set in place not torqued waiting for crank scraper, Also cleaned and painted brackets timing cover and oil pan.


Hope you didn't think your motor would get out of this garage without seeing some of my Industrial Gray... LOL!


Looks quite nice against the red though. Test fitting the pan to see.


I also test fitted the TCE set. I need the large chain guide for that so I'll order it today... the thin chain guide is too wide for this chain.


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Re: Roberts 89GT Engine build.
Ordered a set of total seal rings from Ben at WOT-Tech since he uses the 3mm oil ring. Sending the Sealed Power ones back to RA on Monday.
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Man everything looks great jon.
I also talked with the coaters and the headers should be finished
Mid-week.Is it me or is jon kicking this builds ass!!!
I also talked with the coaters and the headers should be finished
Mid-week.Is it me or is jon kicking this builds ass!!!
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Jon is deffinately kicking this builds ass lol, dudes a beast bottom line.
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Total Seal rings order from Ben, Shipping the Sealed Power ones back to RA... since they just don't fit, they really can't argue that return reason. Crank scraper was shipped so I should get that soon. Since I'm waiting on the parts I'll probably do some bay paint work while I'm idle.
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Thanks again jon for all the extra work.3X00-Modified wrote:Total Seal rings order from Ben, Shipping the Sealed Power ones back to RA... since they just don't fit, they really can't argue that return reason. Crank scraper was shipped so I should get that soon. Since I'm waiting on the parts I'll probably do some bay paint work while I'm idle.
I know what will happen all the part will come at onces.lol
Im hoping you see the headers back end of the week or early next.=)
It's shouldn't be white on the roads in 2 weeks.lol
I really hope not anyways.
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it shouldn't but at this point anything goes.Robert 89gt wrote: It's shouldn't be white on the roads in 2 weeks.lol.


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Guess i'll just grab a set of snow tires then.
Driving in the snow doesn't scare me.
Driving in the snow doesn't scare me.

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I have a set I think... LOL and a set of GTZ rims one pair black the other gold... hahaha its a styling look

We'll see how things go. Worse case I can bug Larry to see if I can borrow his truck/trailer to transport it, but that's last resort.
Got the crank scraper yesterday, should hopefully have the rings today or tomorrow. If I have them today I hope to have the bottom end assembled by tonight. Thats if I don't run into anymore issues.

We'll see how things go. Worse case I can bug Larry to see if I can borrow his truck/trailer to transport it, but that's last resort.
Got the crank scraper yesterday, should hopefully have the rings today or tomorrow. If I have them today I hope to have the bottom end assembled by tonight. Thats if I don't run into anymore issues.
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Ha i have a set of 15in crosslaced wheels in the trunk of my olds.
Yeah im sure you could get the car finished before it snows.
Because i was be really sad=(
Yeah im sure you could get the car finished before it snows.
Because i was be really sad=(
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If I have to clean one more piston I think I'm going to kill a bunny.... And I love bunnies... LOL
Finished cleaning all the pistons tonight so if the rings show up tomorrow I can get the bottom end built. I need to order the chain dampener from GM since the aftermarket version doesn't fit with the double roller. It's still too wide and actually too tall and hits the gear.
Finished cleaning all the pistons tonight so if the rings show up tomorrow I can get the bottom end built. I need to order the chain dampener from GM since the aftermarket version doesn't fit with the double roller. It's still too wide and actually too tall and hits the gear.
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Yeah that stinks you had to wait so long for the rings.
I talked with the coaters today the headers are finished and i payed them.So there should have been shipped today=)
I talked with the coaters today the headers are finished and i payed them.So there should have been shipped today=)
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No rings today... Worked on cleaning up the block surface... Yellow bristle brush isn't cutting it, gotta find a green 2" one somewhere.
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You guys really have that much snow up there??????
I like the progress on this, great work Jon!!
I like the progress on this, great work Jon!!
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