1992 Beretta GTZ

[berettaboi]

request pics of the front and rear end of both drivers and passengers side rocker panels... and also the front of the door sills... oh and rear subframe and bumper area, and trunk side of shock towers, and complete rear of trunk, oh, and front subframes, and firewall

the new-ish quad4 should add about $1000 to the car's 'maybe' value... the car is not worth more than $2500 for sure with the info provided, if there are receipts to prove everything, tranny rebuild, new clutch, new fuel tank, fuel pump, brake and gas lines, immaculate interior, and redone exterior (if the photos provided were last year/older and it has been redone... not likely), he still wont see more than half his asking price.

[1990BerettaGTZ2.3L]

As one of my favorite movie characters Jackie Gleson would say from Smokey and the Bandit "what the heck is the world coming to"

[speedy]

so okay, what i notice from pics, its certainly a 92, the decklid is origanal and so are the filler panels and they arent to dirty, the wheels look clean as far as curb rash. it could be the pic but the drivers side rocker on between the door and bottom appear to be wavy? maybe warped? the drivers side front fender dont line up with the drivers bumper? theres rust on the rear quarter(for only 2 winters that shouldnt exist but who knows...), theres stains on the center consoul and carpet, the front bumper was replaced at some point and now has 2 holes in it, the muffler was replaced wich leads me to believe that the previous one rotted out but with never seeing a winter how could that be?... only logical conclusion i have is it sat in grass for a year or so.. and the paint is peeling wich god knows what a body shop would charge to fix it, although the engine bay is clean as hell one more ? i have is if its a "gm" engine. 1 where'd he buy it? 2. why the hell are the cam tower covers black? its also missing the air box wich irritates me becouse someone probably hacked the hell out of the plastics behind the bumper designed to push air to the radiator up to put a crappy cone filter there... but the engine WAS running when the pic was taken, however it appears to be missing peices.. i cant tell but it appears the gas door is sagging.. i'll tell you all this much, if i went there, and didnt find rust in the door jams, or under the tails, theres not a doubt in my mind id buy it with cash there, but not for 8k, no way, i'll call him tomorrow and we'll go from there, maybe this baby will come home to me. but only, and only if the car is absolutly rust free.

also, unless he bought the engine direct from gm and not a reman engine, im inclined to believe its got more l.o. stuff then h.o. stuff.

[speedy]

well after a few days of going back and forth with this guy he comes down in price to 4999 on cl, and told me $4,500 i can have it... he's still off his rocker but at least he's getting closer to it.... i refuse to spend that kind of money on any beretta. im sorry, they might be rare but with no collector status what so ever, it isnt worth that kind of money.

[1990BerettaGTZ2.3L]

Chris don't forget they will be worth slot of money someday they really are the muscle cars of their era and look at all the muscle cars like my chevelle for example were worthless used all the up till like early to mud 90s my dad keeps telling me about how cheap the muscle cars he's had were in the 70s and 80s and then it went through the roof that why i wanna find clean cars and never drive em in the rain or winter because it just eats em up, and before too long berettas will actually be really hard to find if they aren't already and the value will go through the roof cause there will practically be few left

[scd88ga]

Chris don't forget they will be worth slot of money someday they really are the muscle cars of their era and look at all the muscle cars like my chevelle for example were worthless used all the up till like early to mud 90s my dad keeps telling me about how cheap the muscle cars he's had were in the 70s and 80s and then it went through the roof that why i wanna find clean cars and never drive em in the rain or winter because it just eats em up, and before too long berettas will actually be really hard to find if they aren't already and the value will go through the roof cause there will practically be few left

LMFAO! You should be a comedian!

[1990BerettaGTZ2.3L]

What you guys don't believe me, well see 40 years later when you can't touch one of these cars for under 20,000 then you guys are gonna say man I wish I still had my beretta when it's probably in some junkyard rotted to the ground that is if you drive it in the rain and snow

[1990BerettaGTZ2.3L]

And your car especially Brett 1 of 896 tell me that's not gonna be a rare collector car someday are you smelling what I'm stepping in man

[scd88ga]

What you guys don't believe me, well see 40 years later when you can't touch one of these cars for under 20,000 then you guys are gonna say man I wish I still had my beretta when it's probably in some junkyard rotted to the ground that is if you drive it in the rain and snow

And your car especially Brett 1 of 896 tell me that's not gonna be a rare collector car someday are you smelling what I'm stepping in man

[GTU89]

well after a few days of going back and forth with this guy he comes down in price to 4999 on cl, and told me $4,500 i can have it... he's still off his rocker but at least he's getting closer to it.... i refuse to spend that kind of money on any beretta. im sorry, they might be rare but with no collector status what so ever, it isnt worth that kind of money.

I'd jump on it for $4500, or tell him you'll do it 4k? It has a Goodwrench crate motor with 30k! Shame for the peeling paint though. But other than that it looks to be in really nice shape.

[speedy]

so buy it. 4,000 for a car that needs work, nah, i could give a rats about the engine, id tear it out and throw my built quad 4 in it anyways. if i put a new motor in mine i wouldnt get $4,000 for it, and thats with hg2 cams, eagle rods, lightweight flywheel, spec clutch, eibachs, koni's, ect... this is a stock gtz with issues here. i told him 2k. figure for $4,000 i can pick up a clean rust free 5 speed cherokee for $1,000. spend $2,000 on a 6.5in long arm lift kit, shocks, sye, driveshaft ect for the lift. then spend $1,000 on some nice 35's and i can turn and sell it for $4,000. $3,000 certainly wouldnt be an issue. putting $4,000 into a beretta that im going to put an engine in i put $3,000+ into dont seem practicle.... sorry, it just dont.

[GTU89]

so buy it. 4,000 for a car that needs work, nah, i could give a rats about the engine, id tear it out and throw my built quad 4 in it anyways. if i put a new motor in mine i wouldnt get $4,000 for it, and thats with hg2 cams, eagle rods, lightweight flywheel, spec clutch, eibachs, koni's, ect... this is a stock gtz with issues here. i told him 2k. figure for $4,000 i can pick up a clean rust free 5 speed cherokee for $1,000. spend $2,000 on a 6.5in long arm lift kit, shocks, sye, driveshaft ect for the lift. then spend $1,000 on some nice 35's and i can turn and sell it for $4,000. $3,000 certainly wouldnt be an issue. putting $4,000 into a beretta that im going to put an engine in i put $3,000+ into dont seem practicle.... sorry, it just dont.

Um, no. I don't live anywhere near the car, and I don't have $4k to drop on a car right now.

What work does it need though? I'm assuming there is stuff he told you over the phone that he didn't put in his ad?

I'm confused about the engine though, I though Beretta's got the 2.3 Quad and the later model Cavaliers got the 2.4, guessing he has the wrong info or does it just have a cavvy quad in it?

[speedy]

so buy it. 4,000 for a car that needs work, nah, i could give a rats about the engine, id tear it out and throw my built quad 4 in it anyways. if i put a new motor in mine i wouldnt get $4,000 for it, and thats with hg2 cams, eagle rods, lightweight flywheel, spec clutch, eibachs, koni's, ect... this is a stock gtz with issues here. i told him 2k. figure for $4,000 i can pick up a clean rust free 5 speed cherokee for $1,000. spend $2,000 on a 6.5in long arm lift kit, shocks, sye, driveshaft ect for the lift. then spend $1,000 on some nice 35's and i can turn and sell it for $4,000. $3,000 certainly wouldnt be an issue. putting $4,000 into a beretta that im going to put an engine in i put $3,000+ into dont seem practicle.... sorry, it just dont.

Um, no. I don't live anywhere near the car, and I don't have $4k to drop on a car right now.

What work does it need though? I'm assuming there is stuff he told you over the phone that he didn't put in his ad?

I'm confused about the engine though, I though Beretta's got the 2.3 Quad and the later model Cavaliers got the 2.4, guessing he has the wrong info or does it just have a cavvy quad in it?

so okay, what i notice from pics, its certainly a 92, the decklid is origanal and so are the filler panels and they arent to dirty, the wheels look clean as far as curb rash. it could be the pic but the drivers side rocker on between the door and bottom appear to be wavy? maybe warped? the drivers side front fender dont line up with the drivers bumper? theres rust on the rear quarter(for only 2 winters that shouldnt exist but who knows...), theres stains on the center consoul and carpet, the front bumper was replaced at some point and now has 2 holes in it, the muffler was replaced wich leads me to believe that the previous one rotted out but with never seeing a winter how could that be?... only logical conclusion i have is it sat in grass for a year or so.. and the paint is peeling wich god knows what a body shop would charge to fix it, although the engine bay is clean as hell one more ? i have is if its a "gm" engine. 1 where'd he buy it? 2. why the hell are the cam tower covers black? its also missing the air box wich irritates me becouse someone probably hacked the hell out of the plastics behind the bumper designed to push air to the radiator up to put a crappy cone filter there... but the engine WAS running when the pic was taken, however it appears to be missing peices.. i cant tell but it appears the gas door is sagging.. i'll tell you all this much, if i went there, and didnt find rust in the door jams, or under the tails, theres not a doubt in my mind id buy it with cash there, but not for 8k, no way, i'll call him tomorrow and we'll go from there, maybe this baby will come home to me. but only, and only if the car is absolutly rust free.

and if you read the post after, i called him, he said his lowest is $4,600. wich is just not gonna happen. if it had 100,000 miles less then yes, maybe.

[scd88ga]

well after a few days of going back and forth with this guy he comes down in price to 4999 on cl, and told me $4,500 i can have it... he's still off his rocker but at least he's getting closer to it.... i refuse to spend that kind of money on any beretta. im sorry, they might be rare but with no collector status what so ever, it isnt worth that kind of money.

I'd jump on it for $4500, or tell him you'll do it 4k? It has a Goodwrench crate motor with 30k! Shame for the peeling paint though. But other than that it looks to be in really nice shape.

I'll let you in on a lil factoid! MOST of the GM FSR (Factory Service Replacement) motors were LOW OUTPUT quad 4's! This had been confirmed on multiple occasions! Sad but true! :/

And yes, this car has a 2.3, they owner is just not right in the head! lol