Who did you vote for?

[woody90gtz]

I voted for Romney simply because his beliefs are more in line with my own. Obviously you aren't going to agree with everything a candidate stands for, but that's the price you pay for being a republic. Probably still better than direct democracy considering the intelligence level and selfishness of most voters.

I am a believer than hard work should be rewarded, and laziness should not. The Democratic party has a flawed idea about forcing "fairness" by massive spending. The idea of taking from the rich and giving to the poor is counterproductive. Money is the primary incentive to work hard. When that incentive is taken away by giving "free" money to anyone who doesn't make their own, the work ethic dies. This country was once very strong because it worked to be.

And if an incumbent President who has done more deficit spending in 4 years than anyone ever has and still has a slow economy to show for it can't be beat by a challenger with a finance background that has already turned a state deficit in to a surplus...I fail to see how we will ever work our way out of this problem. This should have been an easy win for the Republicans if common sense prevailed. Unfortunately common sense is not so common any more.

[Travelor]

While I agree with you that hard work should be earned, not putting money into education and helping the poor raise themselves out of poverty is a bad idea. There shouldn't be "free money" as you put it for everyone, but there should be some amount to help out those that prove they wish to make their lives better.
I found the fact that had we instead of bailing out the banks, used that money for education, every child in the US could have gone through 4 years of college for free very interesting. (If not just wishful thinking)

If that had happened and incentives were put in to persuade people to get degrees in engineering, math and science, it would have been a major win for our economic future. I guess I have a hard time understanding why we all don't invest in education more then we do, and then wonder why we are starting to fall behind other countries.

I see the same thing from all politicians though. They call for better education, better schools, but when that bucket comes around it be their hands that are pulling money out first.

[GTU89]

@Travelor

I agree pretty much completely. There shouldn't be handouts, but there could be an effort to cut-down on poverty and such.

On the election, I didn't have a strong opinion this time around, so I wouldn't have been bummed either way to be honest. And you have to take what any of them say with a grain of salt. I do hate how it seems like alot of campaigns are focused around why they think you shouldn't vote for the other candidate, and not what the they themselves stand for.

I don't think all the hate Obama got/gets is fair either, he did become president during a pretty big mess, and you cannot expect them to be able to clean it all up.

[BerettaLove32]

The problem with Romney is he flip flopped constantly. Who the hell knows what his real plan was. He gave some details but never could give specifics on it. There were plenty of well-respected economists who said his plan just wouldn't work. Plus he wanted to let student loan interest rates double and get the banks involved again with student loans which would drive the cost up again. In MA he cut funding to universities and of course that cost gets passed on to the students. We don't need a bigger military in my opinion. Just a few of the reasons I didn't vote for him. But that's just my worthless opinion lol.

[woody90gtz]

I agree that the idea behind help for the poor is a good one, but people take advantage of it. There should be a time limit on it like there is for unemployment. Too many people make it a lifestyle instead of a temporary lifeline. If that "free" money went away I think you'd see a change in work ethic. There's a growing population that is dependent on government. For this country to be strong people need to take care of themselves and be self-reliant.

As for free education, I'm not sure that's a good idea either. While I was in school I noticed it was pretty easy to tell who paid their own way through college and who was on mommy & daddy's dime. Those who paid it themselves took it more seriously and didn't blow every night partying. While it would have been fun to hit all the parties in my dorm, I'm better off in the long run by sticking to my school work.

How many people during this recession went back to school and still can't find work? A ton. A friend of mine has 6 years of school and still can't find a good paying job.

I agree Obama inherited a problem, but the problem was largely created by Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac loans pushed by the Democrats. And all the government spending since his election further creates abnormal markets in the economy. IMO, when government screws with things, it tends to blow up. Let the free market be free and it will control itself. Government funding puts dollars where they shouldn't be.

[berettaboi]

i'm on the same mindset as you woody.

i'm actually back to school on government funds, but i paid a lot more into unemployment in the 10 years before these last 2 years i've been in school... i'm happy for the opportunity. still had to jump through some hoops to get into the program as well.

our economy and work availability is just as horrible in most of Ontario here. Things are going well out in Alberta in the oil sands though.

[3X00-Modified]

If you want to get technical it doesn't matter who is sitting in the hot seat right now... The Senate and the house is still split and no one carries a full majority so either person; their full "agenda" will not get done... And yet every republican try to blame the sitting president again when it's just Congress who will not compromise. Too many people believe only one side is right which is complete BS You have to meet in the middle otherwise we will just be sitting here spinning our wheels and enacting things then concentrating years on repealing and BS like that. It's time to open your eyes and realize that the Republicans are not 100% right and neither are the Democrats.

Oh and Woody... It's kind of shallow to think that there is only abuse on the welfare side of things... When you look at that the amount of money that gets spent/consumed for that it's probably much less in comparison to the amount of big money that goes "missing" or doesn't get accounted for on tax returns. BOTH sides are highly corrupt which is why reform needs to be pushed in almost every aspect. I also remember reading/hearing (don't know how true it is with all the lies out there) that the Red states this election time are also the ones that carry the higher users and abusers of the the welfare system... So it makes you wonder why they would vote for someone who would remove those advantages they are using.

Also either way you cut it, wealthy having to pay the same tax rate as us, or giving them a break your expecting the money to flow down from them to the middle class... One is just in tax, a more guaranteed way, the other is in "hoping" that they will spend money, invest, or expand their business by hiring more... And working for a full republican run company all I see is them hiding it or spending it on toys for themselves and not re-investing in any business growth/hiring or rewarding workers for what they do... Maybe it's just here but I'm sure others have experienced the same.

One example I have is since 08 the President of this company went from driving a Nissan Maxima to now having a Nissan 370Z for his summer car and it's a COMPANY car, He doesn't pay a dime for gas or insurance on it... One of the original owners still active on the board, also went out and bought a huge big rig toter home to carry around his small rail car and then went and got a quad cab diesel truck and converted it to have rail wheels on it so he could go rail driving up in Maine... Seems like the business is doing fine for them to be able to spend money like that, but employee raises and such are not reflecting that in the least, and I keep getting told I spend too much money on IT stuff... I should just stop caring about the system and wait till it fails so they understand why you need to spend the money.

There is my independent and influenced opinion from my experience where I work/live.

Oh and I hear way too many people voting republican JUST because he was white... Sorry but that's simply pathetic and you should not be able to vote if that is your only reasoning.

[woody90gtz]

And on the other side of that story is a friend on my facebook who told all the people who voted for Romney that they were racist. That's the dumbest thing I ever heard. I'm sure some are, but that doesn't change the fact that not voting for Obama doesn't automatically make you racist. That stupid mentality swept the nation in '08. There were a lot who voted for Obama simply because he was black.

There is abuse everywhere. Both ideologies would work if people had morals and were not so selfish. Unfortunately, it wrecks both systems. The more regulations are programs, the more ways to cheat the system. I think a set tax with no loopholes is the only way to try to keep people honest.

On another note...I'm glad the House is there to block more of the President's agenda. Did you see the spending in the first two years under an all-Democrat House, Senate & White House?

[Travelor]

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[themadness]

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