Hmm.... Read this.

[SuzukiGhostRider]

Thoughts? I too disagree with this. Letting the children of illegal aliens feed off of the taxpayer's tit with FREE education only further enables the problem of illegal aliens. Now we're going to educate them, feed them, give them welfare? Hell , why not just stand at the border and hand out free green cards and Visa's to illegal aliens sneaking into the country?

http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/ ... Stories%29

[KFLO 93 GT]

Ya know, I really don't have a problem paying a bit extra in taxes in my area so that these kids can go to school. I'd rather it be that way than to keep them out of school - thus putting them on the streets to undoubtedly become thugs. At least school gives them the ability to go beyond the streets.

Besides, this has been the policy since the days of Reagan. The Republicans will change it if they want, they've sure got their laser shooting eyes aimed at education and teachers anyways as of late.

[Barry]

The fact that the government pays people to find and seize illegal skylines and silvias but we have hundreds of illegals entering the country every day and we want to educate them makes me want to flip a crap

[BerettaLove32]

If you want to stop them from coming into the country then you need to take a lot more tax payer money to beef up border patrol. So either way we are dedicating more tax money to illegals. In my opinion this doesn't rank very high on my list of things to get pissed about that our tax money being spent on. Plus how many horrible jobs are illegals working in this country so that Americans can get cheaper stuff? Working for less than minimum wage and in horrible working conditions. If you want something to get angry about get angry about companies like GE paying no taxes, or oil companies getting tax subsidies or tax cuts for the rich.

[SuzukiGhostRider]

I'm MUCH more willing for my hard earned tax dollars to go to border security rather than ENCOURAGING and ENTICING illegals into the country with the promise of free education at my expense. I have to pay for it, why shouldn't they?

[Wanako]

um yeah... I have an idea to where this may be headed.

inb4thisturnsintoallhispanicsareillegal thread.

Prove me wrong guys. PLEASE prove me wrong.



but handing out free green cards at the border doesn't sound like too bad of an idea. That way they ALL have to pay taxes and people can stop bitching about it. Sounds win-win to me.

I'd rather have MY tax dollars spent taking out the American drug dealers, the American murderers, the American sexual predators. Now THAT sounds like a good idea.

[diedemus]

If this thread goes there, there will be action taken.

[SuzukiGhostRider]

um yeah... I have an idea to where this may be headed.

inb4thisturnsintoallhispanicsareillegal thread.

Prove me wrong guys. PLEASE prove me wrong.

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Absolutely not. Not from me at any rate. I refer not only to Latino's or Hispanic illegals, but ANY illegal. As to "criminal activity" just as much is attributed to illegals these days as legals. I just want it done right or they can GTFO. Period. I'm tired of illegals leaching off of our economy, sending the money they make OUT of the country and the economy suffering because of it. Live here, work here, spend here.

To tell you the truth Wanako, I'm surprised to see you go there with this thread? No one else was.

[Mr. Beefy]

Yep we have to remember that there are 3 other borders that ILLEGALS come across, float onto the shores or what have you. What kills me is everyone associates 'illegals' with coming up from Mexico(I know that's not the case with your statements Mike). Hell..... 1/2 the people coming across the border in Mexico arent even from there. They are going into Mexico from central/south america and coming here across the mexican border.

That being said..... if you dont pay taxes, you shouldnt get anything the government has to offer. My wife is Mexican and came here from Mexico. Yes they hopped the border, HOWEVER just after getting in the states, they applied and got their permanent residency(which is now US citizenship for all her family). They at least wanted to become american citizens knowing that it was REALLY tough to live in Mexico. They made the move to better their family, and lives.

For those who come here and bleed the country dry, with no intentions of getting a visa or anything..... I say ship them back when you find them and dont give them a dime of the money that I"M paying in my taxes......... especailly when I cant even get a penny of help from the government that I pay for with my taxes.

[SuzukiGhostRider]

Exactly on the spot John. I have a VERY difficult time with illegals getting ANYTHING my government has to offer that I couldn't get if I BEGGED FOR THE ASSISTANCE as a TAXPAYING born American LEGAL resident.....

[SuzukiGhostRider]

If you want to stop them from coming into the country then you need to take a lot more tax payer money to beef up border patrol. So either way we are dedicating more tax money to illegals. In my opinion this doesn't rank very high on my list of things to get pissed about that our tax money being spent on. Plus how many horrible jobs are illegals working in this country so that Americans can get cheaper stuff? Working for less than minimum wage and in horrible working conditions. If you want something to get angry about get angry about companies like GE paying no taxes, or oil companies getting tax subsidies or tax cuts for the rich.

I'm not sure where you're shopping , but where I shop and buy gas , prices are , and have been, on a STEADY rise. So I'm not seeing the so called "benefits" I'm reaping from illegals working for crap wages they WOULDN'T work for if they had visa's or green cards so they could demand a fair wage. Oh, and taxes are going UP , not DOWN. Our sales tax about 8 months ago jumped to 8% from 7.5% and now they're talking about ANOTHER increase.

Now, can you seriously sit at your computer and type a response that's going to convince me that supporting, educating, and feeding illegal aliens isn't where a good chunk of my taxes go? Especially when that news is right in your morning newspaper headlines?

[diedemus]

sales tax has been 8% in NY for a few years now

[Wanako]

9.75% in Los Angeles.

[BerettaLove32]

If you want to stop them from coming into the country then you need to take a lot more tax payer money to beef up border patrol. So either way we are dedicating more tax money to illegals. In my opinion this doesn't rank very high on my list of things to get pissed about that our tax money being spent on. Plus how many horrible jobs are illegals working in this country so that Americans can get cheaper stuff? Working for less than minimum wage and in horrible working conditions. If you want something to get angry about get angry about companies like GE paying no taxes, or oil companies getting tax subsidies or tax cuts for the rich.

I'm not sure where you're shopping , but where I shop and buy gas , prices are , and have been, on a STEADY rise. So I'm not seeing the so called "benefits" I'm reaping from illegals working for crap wages they WOULDN'T work for if they had visa's or green cards so they could demand a fair wage. Oh, and taxes are going UP , not DOWN. Our sales tax about 8 months ago jumped to 8% from 7.5% and now they're talking about ANOTHER increase.


Now, can you seriously sit at your computer and type a response that's going to convince me that supporting, educating, and feeding illegal aliens isn't where a good chunk of my taxes go? Especially when that news is right in your morning newspaper headlines?

Of course prices and taxes are on the rise but they would be even higher in some industries if it weren't for illegals working "under the table." The higher prices and taxes are due to the economy not illegals. If they were legal and getting paid more you'd see those jobs get shipped out to other countries so bye bye tax money either way.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for making these people legal. But it's not so simple. You could double the Border Patrol budget and not see much of a change. People who get deported don't just stop there, they keep trying to get back into the country. I'm not thrilled about my tax money going to them either but I see it as an investment. If we throw some money at educating them and helping them get legal so they can stay here and pay taxes than great. If these people start to commit crimes or constantly get deported then we invest money that gets no return.
Don't take what I said the wrong way I'm not excited or jumping behind this like it's the best idea ever but these types of issues are never cut and dry. I don't think we should just let them all come over and give them a bunch of free stuff but I personally don't have a huge problem with giving them a kick start to getting legal. Have a year or two and if you aren't legit after that then you gotta go.

[SuzukiGhostRider]

............ The higher prices and taxes are due to the economy not illegals. ........

Now think about that statement. Yoiu don't think the illegals are hurting the economy? When money that SHOULD be going to legal US Citizens for aid, cleanup, homelessness, jobs, etc is instead being distributed to illegals? When illegals are taking jobs some Americans WOULD take so they could have work and feed their family?

I find your statement VERY self contradictory.

And the liberal view of "Gee it's ok, they already made it into the country, let's give them a year or two to see how it works out." is LUDICROUS. We've given it MANY years already. LA is one of the most CRIME ridden cities in the country due to influx of US/Mexico border crossings.

Arizona felt the need to step up and pass a controversial new law to protect THEIR people. And by people , I mean LEGAL Az. and US residents.

Don't forget, I live in New Mexico, so I'm probably a little closer to home on this matter than you may be. I see the devastating results of illegal residents daily.....