Quad 4 cam blanks

[1990BerettaGTZ2.3L]

I was doing some reading on the net about w41s and finding cams for one since I'm buying a salvage yard one and want to freshen it up a bit or make some extra ponys out of it, it said that comp cams sells cam blanks, if I can still get these my question is what grind I can get out of them in a stock w41 motor without shooting a valve through a piston and still use the w41 chip that I need to get to put this motor in my beretta gtz now I have heard of the .226 cams and the .232 and up cams but would I be able to run a .226 or maybe custom grind a .228 or .230 and not have to use the stand alone system that's required for the .232 any help on this would be sweet I'll be happy when my berettas about as fast as accelerating as my chevelle but keeping it Quad 4 too

[scd88ga]

Nobody has blanks anymore as far as I know and haven't for years now. If you buy cams larger than W41's, you'll need a custom tune on your chip, and you can use any chip that is made for your ECM # even if it's an LD2 automatic chip, they are all the same physically.

[LX9Power]

If you want a fast beretta Quad here is a few things you need to know:

Beretta's were the heaviest car where they put the W40. you need to have some torque So I recommend not using more then the W41 cam. or you will have a slug from stoplight to stoplight.

Be sure that you have a real W40 (10.0:1 pistons) or more or you will loose some power down low.

If your using a High rpm cam (7400+ rpm) I suggest getting a 3.94 trans to actually help you down low

The Quad Responds Very well to forced induction.

Headder is a Must for a high performance Quad.

If you want to stay N/A and shoot for 13's, Forget the Quad as it will get expensive FAST. Go Strait to a V6 as it will be cheaper and faster more easily (Sad but true)

[1990BerettaGTZ2.3L]

If you want a fast beretta Quad here is a few things you need to know:

Beretta's were the heaviest car where they put the W40. you need to have some torque So I recommend not using more then the W41 cam. or you will have a slug from stoplight to stoplight.

Be sure that you have a real W40 (10.0:1 pistons) or more or you will loose some power down low.

If your using a High rpm cam (7400+ rpm) I suggest getting a 3.94 trans to actually help you down low

The Quad Responds Very well to forced induction.

Headder is a Must for a high performance Quad.

If you want to stay N/A and shoot for 13's, Forget the Quad as it will get expensive FAST. Go Strait to a V6 as it will be cheaper and faster more easily (Sad but true)

I don't want a v6 I don't like then I've owned two and they just don't have the upper end pull the quad has I've had 3 quad cars in my life time and I love how they get up and go not much low end but when they get up past 3,000 rpms they run good, Id like to run a high rpm cam such as a .226 or custom grind a .228 for a just bit more, I know the w41 is .218 does any one have any .226 cams anymore or are they impossible to find I'd probably have better luck on the quad forums trying to find parts

[LX9Power]

If you want a fast beretta Quad here is a few things you need to know:

Beretta's were the heaviest car where they put the W40. you need to have some torque So I recommend not using more then the W41 cam. or you will have a slug from stoplight to stoplight.

Be sure that you have a real W40 (10.0:1 pistons) or more or you will loose some power down low.

If your using a High rpm cam (7400+ rpm) I suggest getting a 3.94 trans to actually help you down low

The Quad Responds Very well to forced induction.

Headder is a Must for a high performance Quad.

If you want to stay N/A and shoot for 13's, Forget the Quad as it will get expensive FAST. Go Strait to a V6 as it will be cheaper and faster more easily (Sad but true)

I don't want a v6 I don't like then I've owned two and they just don't have the upper end pull the quad has I've had 3 quad cars in my life time and I love how they get up and go not much low end but when they get up past 3,000 rpms they run good, Id like to run a high rpm cam such as a .226 or custom grind a .228 for a just bit more, I know the w41 is .218 does any one have any .226 cams anymore or are they impossible to find I'd probably have better luck on the quad forums trying to find parts

I had a Quad before hand and what I"m talking about is what I tried. I know they are cool High rpm Screamer but form what you said you wanted something that accelerates as fast as your chevelle. If it got forced induction fine, but If your NA you ll have a hard time doing it.
Oh and If you have only driven 2.8-3.1 versus a Quad sure the Quad is a beast, but versus the newer V6...even in top end pull a full bolt on Quad has no Chance vs a bolt on 3400 or 3500.

Quad are great for a autocross car, V6 are good for a Drag racing car.

[SuzukiGhostRider]

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Oh and If you have only driven 2.8-3.1 versus a Quad sure the Quad is a beast, but versus the newer V6...even in top end pull a full bolt on Quad has no Chance vs a bolt on 3400 or 3500.

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I agree with alot you said in your previous post about mods for Quads. But the statement above couldn't be more untrue. I've taken quite a few of the new V-6's (in fact every that's tried to screw with me on the road) and many of the newer V8 "badass" cars that everyone is taken enough with to drop $40k-$50k on .......

And I don't even have a header yet. No turbo or S/C. Not even W41 or better cams.....

As far as full bolt on for full bolt on, (I'm assuming excepting boost for either as we're talking regular bolt ons?) The Quad still wins.....

[SuzukiGhostRider]

Brett is right. You'll not find cam blanks or if you do it's someone hoarding a set ( I know one or two members on Q4F who may still have a set) but as to W41 or better cams,low mileage in good shape, try DraftinwitJR on Q4F ,but be prepared to pay prettily.... Not because Jeff is greedy or high priced, but in fact because they are super rare cams anymore and a hefty price is pretty typical for them nowadays.

Oh, and Comp has the GRIND for the W41 and HG2 (Hot Grind 2) cams on file. If you get them a set of blanks, they can still grind the cams for you.

[1990BerettaGTZ2.3L]

Brett is right. You'll not find cam blanks or if you do it's someone hoarding a set ( I know one or two members on Q4F who may still have a set) but as to W41 or better cams,low mileage in good shape, try DraftinwitJR on Q4F ,but be prepared to pay prettily.... Not because Jeff is greedy or high priced, but in fact because they are super rare cams anymore and a hefty price is pretty typical for them nowadays.

Oh, and Comp has the GRIND for the W41 and HG2 (Hot Grind 2) cams on file. If you get them a set of blanks, they can still grind the cams for you.

I'm gonna have to call em Monday but man we need to get us a vendor to start making some quad parts since manta is no longer in buisness

[LOLVTEC]

Fairly certain an Achieva is heavier than a Beretta...

If you are having a problem finding cams Forced induction is probably the way to go.

[1990BerettaGTZ2.3L]

Fairly certain an Achieva is heavier than a Beretta...

If you are having a problem finding cams Forced induction is probably the way to go.

How much do u think I could get out of a w41 saying I do all the basic bolt ons I can do, and a cam upgrade if I can find .226 cams, and put a turbo on her?

[3X00-Modified]

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Oh and If you have only driven 2.8-3.1 versus a Quad sure the Quad is a beast, but versus the newer V6...even in top end pull a full bolt on Quad has no Chance vs a bolt on 3400 or 3500.

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I agree with alot you said in your previous post about mods for Quads. But the statement above couldn't be more untrue. I've taken quite a few of the new V-6's (in fact every that's tried to screw with me on the road) and many of the newer V8 "badass" cars that everyone is taken enough with to drop $40k-$50k on .......

And I don't even have a header yet. No turbo or S/C. Not even W41 or better cams.....

Your statement of street racing holds just about as much water as his opinion on which engine is more cost worthy to modify. Sorry SGR but without seeing times on your car ever, I have a hard time swallowing that statement is true regarding the fact that anyone was actually TRYING to screw with you.

If he wants to screw with a quad thats his choice and it sounds like SCD88GA has answered his OP.

As far as full bolt on for full bolt on, (I'm assuming excepting boost for either as we're talking regular bolt ons?) The Quad still wins.....

I'd love to see dyno sheets to settle this one for good, but they just dont exist so its personal opinion/preference.

Eric hit 14.0's with an unmodded 3500 with headers and an Auto.

[99GaGT3X00]

I agree with alot you said in your previous post about mods for Quads. But the statement above couldn't be more untrue. I've taken quite a few of the new V-6's (in fact every that's tried to screw with me on the road) and many of the newer V8 "badass" cars that everyone is taken enough with to drop $40k-$50k on .......

And I don't even have a header yet. No turbo or S/C. Not even W41 or better cams.....

i'm sorry i have a hard time believing this. so you have what a high 14 low 15sec car and your going to take a G8 for example. v6 or v8 version.

until either a dyno sheet or a 1/4 slip is shown then i have a hard time swallowing anything you post regarding the performance of your cars.

As far as full bolt on for full bolt on, (I'm assuming excepting boost for either as we're talking regular bolt ons?) The Quad still wins.....

don't know about that. i'd still love to see actual proof ..

[spacecadetz26]

Bazinga! TQ>HP

[speedy]

when i get done with my build, i'll be glad to throw some times and dyno sheets out for ya all... hg2 cams, eagle rods, fidanza flywheel, spec clutch, header(if i can find one), i have the 086 head pnp with a 3 angle valve job, 2.5in exhaust, 3.94fdr trans.. this thing should be bad ass, everything is ordered or here except the header, only becouse i havnt found one yet. hehe.

oh, and this be why im trying to find a 92+ gtz, i hate 91- mounts... absolutely hate the dam things.

[LX9Power]

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Oh and If you have only driven 2.8-3.1 versus a Quad sure the Quad is a beast, but versus the newer V6...even in top end pull a full bolt on Quad has no Chance vs a bolt on 3400 or 3500.

.......

I agree with alot you said in your previous post about mods for Quads. But the statement above couldn't be more untrue. I've taken quite a few of the new V-6's (in fact every that's tried to screw with me on the road) and many of the newer V8 "badass" cars that everyone is taken enough with to drop $40k-$50k on .......

And I don't even have a header yet. No turbo or S/C. Not even W41 or better cams.....

As far as full bolt on for full bolt on, (I'm assuming excepting boost for either as we're talking regular bolt ons?) The Quad still wins.....

I took me a Ported 086 head, W41 cam, a ported exhaust manifold , underdrive pulley and a 3.94 transmission, Just to hit 15.000

I did 14.9 in my 3500 beretta with a swap only....( wich is cheaper then everything above)

SO I don't know how a Quad can actually beat a V6 that allready Has 200HP and 225TQ In the relatively same weight vehicle...
I did a top speed run as well with a GPS ( I will not tell what I hit ) but with headders I pulverized my GTZ reccord.

As I said everything I told you is what I tried, and I still stand by what I said, except the achivas and beretta had the around the same weight.